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On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 15:29:20 -0500, Jim wrote:

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On Mon, 16 Aug 2010 07:19:30 -0500, Jim wrote:

According to the site they sell for Florida homes too.

http://solarroofs.com/index.html#customers
Browse at your leisure.
I browsed and I see the "certifications"

I still do not see a NRTL listed and there are a lot of building
departments that will not issue you a permit without one.

This is what the Florida IAEI (electrical inspectors) has to say about
it.
the consensus is "It needs to be certified by a NRTL."

http://www.iaeifl.org/forums/ubbthre....html#Post7273

You have to read the whole thing. The inspector from Cape Coral said
he'd pass an FSEC approved system.
FSEC has tested and approved the Skyline systems.
The pool system they were arguing about had components with no ratings
at all, and the system wasn't FSEC approved.
Looks like those inspectors don't have their act together.
They should straighten themselves out, get with the new technology, and
get the definitive answer about what FSEC system approval means.


Yet the city of Northport says no (Bryan Holland)


No, he was talking about a non-FSEC approved pool system.
It had components with no certs, and wasn't an FSEC approved system.
The Cape Coral inspector butted in with FSEC approved systems.
Which he said he passes, and he laid out the rules.
Seemed clear to me if FSEC approves a system the inspectors should have
no problem with it.
But except for the Cape Coral guy, nobody was talking about an FSEC
approved system.
Florida is spending a lot of money for FSEC testing and certification of
these solar systems.
And they are being installed throughout the state.
I highly doubt an inspector would buck FSEC certification.
Wouldn't add to his job security.


If you are climbing around on your roof with these collectors and
don't have a permit, you are just trusting none of your neighbors are
mad at you about anything or just condo commander types who want to do
the right thing
Building departments are really looking for work these days. Some are
just driving around looking for violations, simply to keep their job.
If there's a chance of getting caught, get the permit. Simple as that.
And if you do that, you talk to the inspector about the system first so
you're in sync and there's no surprises.


The problem is if your BO is a guy who thinks you need NRTL listing
and that is more common than not.

If an inspector doesn't know about FSEC certification he should be
fired. And jailed.

You also notice it is only the collector that is certified, not the
controller or the pump.

No, looks to me that all collectors have SRCC certs. FSEC probably
requires that before they'll test for their system cert.
That's a guess.
The Skyline system came to FSEC with a SRCC collector cert, then FSEC
issued its cert after system testing.
I saw somewhere FSEC also tests the PV's during their system test.
For the Skyline the PV runs a 12v pump.
You can see the extent of the FSEC program and testing regime by
googling for it.
Here
http://www.fsec.ucf.edu/en/certifica...ards/index.htm
You can also find the FSEC system certs for the Skyline systems.
ACR International.




That is why I say they really need a federal program, endorsed by OSHA
(the people who certify a NRTL) to get system certifications without
kicking that $100,000 U/L tar baby.


Why complicate things? You remind me of a worry wart.
Sounds like you just want to make trouble.
Act like a damn Floridian. We don't need fed interference for solar hot
water heater certification.
In fact, FSEC is the most important solar hot water cert nationwide.
You should be proud. I am.
And tell your inspector compadres to listen up. FSEC is the new sheriff
in town.

Jim - Damn, I wish I had an FSEC badge and a gun. And a hat.
I'd show them inspectors a thing or two. Especially the ones hanging
around in that biker bar in Bartow. And gfretwell too if he's in there.