On 7/25/10 12:36 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 11:51:02 -0400, Harry
wrote:

What's *your* solution for providing workers who don't earn tons of
money a good health care and retirement program?

And what is your rationale for believing that they have an inalienable
right to either ?

Traditionally good health care and good retirement plans were fringe
benefits that employers used to attract and retain a top notch labor
force. When did that become a "right" ? I find nothing in the
constitution. Our ancestors grew up and proliferated without these
"rights". How did they manage? Perhaps by being productive and
thrifty?


My rationale is that they are fellow human beings, and therefore are
entitled as an inalienable right to good health care and a reasonable
retirement after a lifetime of working, *even if* they never earn enough
money to do so on their own.

The "I find nothing in the Constitution" is a vacuous argument. As a
nation, we do many things and undertake many activities that are not
strictly or even loosely defined in the Constitution.

What do you expect the working poor to do, w'hine, to help you hang onto
more of your dollars? Get sick and die? Miss an entire day of work to
sit in a hospital ER for a flu shot? Live in a cardboard box when they
are pushed out of their job and there aren't any more jobs?

Be productive and thrifty is a wonderful aphorism for a time when such
made a better life possible for workers trying to claw a step or two up
the ladder. Nowadays, it takes to incomes to support even a small family.