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On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:20:02 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 23:09:40 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

It was an education. I went to several Joint Council 65 summer outings
at the Lake of the Ozarks. Seeing these old guys who were building a
union during a depression talk about "old times" will really give you
perspective. That was when unions actually dealt with employer abuses
of the employees instead of the other way around.

You don't believe that there are major employer abuses still going on?
Perhaps they're not clubbing people, but bad things still go on.

I certainly think the unions abuse the American public and business
more than business abuses employees

since there are no unions n the US this is simply wrong

and given the fact companies regularly kill their workers...for
example, BP just killed 15 workers in houston 3 years ago...where's
your proof?

.. There are plenty of laws to
protect employees these days.

bull****. like what?

Unions tend to drive up cost and lower quality.

gee. the germans have a world class export based economy that's
HEAVILY unionized.

the US, with NO unions, is not.

more right wing bull****

These days the
strongest unions are in government and education and that is very
apparent when you see how that is working out.

like I said there are no unions in the US

We spend more on education than any other country in the world with
some of the worst outcomes. K-12 in my county spends almost $20,000
per student.

gee. we spend more on healthcare too, and it's non unionized yet you
think it's perfect because it's free market.