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On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 10:24:51 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 12:18:07 -0400, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 12:10:37 -0400, wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 02:37:00 -0400, bpuharic wrote:
We have hitched our hopes to a corrupt government in a country famous
for grinding up super powers, somehow thinking everything will work
out for us.
you guys think that 'grinding up superpowers' is a profound
observation
it's a cliche. afghanistan has been conquered 3 times in the last 1000
years.
People have occupied Kabul but the mountains we are in were never
"conquered".
tell it to ghengis khan.
That is not history, that is legend and folk lore.
We don't have a clue how effective Khan was in controlling the tribal
areas of Afghanistan. For that matter, the people there could be
descendants of the Khan army.
I don't know of any US policy that claims we want to "control" the tribal
regions. What we want is a stable gov't that doesn't harbor terrorists,
such
as
Al-Qaeda.
I don't believe the Kabul government really has much influence in the
area where the AQ guys are hiding. That is why we failed at Tora Bora.
We had influence in Northwestern Afghanistan but when we got down near
the Pakistan border where tribal leaders are in charge we did not have
enough local support to operate. More people will not do anything but
drive the opposition farther underground and they will pop up like
dandelions as soon as we leave. This is not Iraq.
Currently they don't, but the policy is to give them more stability and less
corruption. They may never "control" the tribal regions, but they'll be able
(according to the policy) keep it under control.
No... we failed in Tora Bora because Bush aka Rumsfeld failed to follow
through.