On 6/19/10 6:30 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

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On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:05:27 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2010 18:02:34 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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I was only addressing the Al Gore solution to the problem he defined.
Personally I only have one observation. I an not sure if it is more
arrogant to think man caused global warming or that man can stop
global warming.

We better just make plans to live in a warmer world. That is where we
should be spending our money.

Al Gore's solution may be one piece of the solution. Human beings are
absolutely the cause of adverse climate change. I don't know if we
have
the
ability to fix it, but we have to try. You're talking about dooming
millions
to extreme hardship if not death. There are no legitimate solutions
that
will fix that problem without fixing the underlying cause.


"Human induced climate change" is the part that you do get
disagreement about among scientists. The predominance do agree it is
getting warmer but that support starts dropping off when you start
assessing blame on why. The CO2 trend is 8000 years old, more closely
tied to agriculture than anything else.. In that regard, it is more
closely related to population than industrialization. I suppose if we
reduced the population to the 1900 levels, we *might* reduce CO2 to
1900 levels.

The "predominance" agree it's human caused. You can quote all the
numbers
you want, but that's a fact.


You are going to have to cite that ... and not from, Al Gore.

My "8000 years ago" number is from an article in Scientific American
about tracking CO2.
In that regard, man may be causing the CO2 buildup but it still tracks
population growth and the rise of agriculture as much as any other
metric. It is an 8000 year trend. Buying carbon credits from Al Gore
is not going to do anything about that. It will just create another
phony bubble market like the CDOs that will probably pop

I do have a little skepticism about "published reports" because
professors publish to get grants and there are no grants to prove man
didn't cause global warming.

Read all about it..

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americ...vey/index.html


If you don't believe "published reports," what possible reports would
you believe?




The ones on fox news?