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On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 21:22:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:23:53 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

Obama shot his whole wad on this health care gift to the big medicine
lobby and let the rest of the country go to hell (or stay in hell if
that is what you think Bush was).

which was one HELLUVAN accomplishment. and the 'big medicine' lobby
is not too happy with obama

so either you're bull****ting or you're lying.


Let's see what the hall open season has to offer, then you decide how
great this "free" health care plan is working. The insurance company
is already hiking the rates for the families who want to take
advantage of the preexisting condition and those who want to put
their 20 somethings on the policy.
The big medicine people will do just fine. They are going to sell more
government paid for drugs and doctors/hospitals will get more
patients. I still have not seen anything to control the cost, They
just increased availability

There's no "free healthcare plan" as you well know. It's a capitalistic
system. Again, enough of the crazy misinformation.

If they're "hiking the rates," then it must not be free. You've got yours,
but you're unwilling to let anyone else in? That's what it sounds like.


They are hiking the rates because their liabilities have been
increased
They are making insurance companies take on more risk (or in the case
of preexisting conditions a known liability) so the premiums will get
raised to cover that. Insurance companies are just bookies. They don't
care what the bet is, as long as they can lay it off and they still
collect the vig.
Remember, this bill was written by UHC lobbyists.

So far, none of this has happened. Costs will go down over time and save us
billions in the next decade alone. And, we not done with the legislation.