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Default OT Drill here drill now


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On Mon, 24 May 2010 18:05:10 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Mon, 24 May 2010 18:04:32 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 24 May 2010 12:42:39 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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So, I guess you can't read... "over the past 20 years" is quite telling.
Who
were former oil men? Bush/Cheney.



If Bush had left BP in charge of this cluster**** for over a month
without any meaningful federal response the left would be losing their
mind.
James Carville, not exactly a GOP cheerleader, is one of the most
vocal critics of the lack of federal action and lack of pressure on
BP. He wants to know why we still trust BP to manage this problem.


as thad allen said today, who else has the expertise? what else would
be done?


Maybe another driller? The point is the feds have just stood back and
taken what BP says as gospel. People like Woods Hole have a lot more
underwater expertise and better vehicles. There may also be other
companies that could bring a lot more to bear on this.
It took almost a month to get decent pictures of the blowout.
I know they tried a small top hat, why not a huge one? Something like
a several hundred ton concrete containment vessel that will not be
floated up with a little ice and gas. Attach a pipe to that and pump
that out to hold it tight on the bottom. Then bury the whole mess with
another several thousand yards of fill dirt. The oil they pumped up
from that would be ready for the refinery.


so far no one has come up with better ideas.

It seems the only people who are allowed to have ideas are the BP
morons who caused the problem in the first place.

the real fault was drilling in areas we could not control.


That and a few major errors that violated the BP protocols.
They broke the BOP and ignored it. Then they violated protocol by not
plugging the well with mud when they were supposed to. This wasn't a
drilling failure it was a criminal act.

BTW
36 days ago Obama was still in favor of this kind of drilling, much to
the dismay of his new BFF, Charlie Crist..


A couple of things. I think the gov't was severely at fault over the last 30
years. Nothing much changed when Obama took office, although Salazar did
make minor improvements. Not enough, and I think he should go. I also think
Obama erred when it came to calling for more drilling, as getting us off
"foreign oil" has little to do with drilling off the coast... even he used
that rhetoric... the oil goes on the world market to the highest bidder. We
need to move to renewable sources and nuclear (problems though there may be
with the spent fuel). Good grief... if France can get 80% from nuclear, we
should be able to do 50%. It won't happen over night. We need to find ways
of cleaning up coal (production/mining and burning) between now and then.