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On 5/5/10 8:38 PM, BAR wrote:
In articleVLadncq_EJKhlH_WnZ2dnUVZ_r6dnZ2d@earthlink .com,
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On 5/5/10 8:05 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 5 May 2010 16:38:45 -0700,
wrote:

There is a lot of hype from the teachers saying tests don't matter but
the reality is, if you can't do well on tests, you will never be able
to get a decent job.

Well.... some people just don't test well. I have an attorney friend who
tried the Cal Bar three times before he passed. He's a heck of a lot smarter
than I, and he makes a heck of a lot more money. I've known a couple of
biologists who are quite bright, but never did well on test and never got
advanced degrees.

I think tests can be an indication of future success, but I don't think
they're the last word on the subject.

Unfortunately they are a fact of life and the sooner kids learn how to
take a test the sooner they will succeed in the 21st century society.
In Florida you can't even cut hair or do fingernails without passing a
standardized test. Obviously, as you pointed out, all "professions"
use tests for a benchmark. It is also the key to getting into a decent
college, getting a decent job in the military or even things as
mundane as a driver's license.
Without test skills your only paths to success are as a rock star,
athlete or drug dealer.

The problem with putting the onus on classroom teachers for the
performance of their charges is that the teachers have no control over
the kids' environments outside of school. Educated adults who take exams
in order to practice a profession can take virtually all the time they
need to prep, and they can, within reason, control their environment.
Lots of kids who do not "achieve" have a lousy home life and that
diminishes the ability for many to prep for standardized tests.

"Without test skills your only paths to success are as a rock star,
athlete or drug dealer." Or half-term governor of Alaska.

When society takes away the tools of parenting from the parents you
can't put the blame for the failings of the chidren/students upon the
parents.

Hillary's book "It Takes a Village" is proof that the
liberal/progressives/Democrat's don't want the parents to be the final
authority for their own childrens upbringing.

You don't have the knowledge, experience, or background to make such a
judgment.

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