On 30/04/2010 9:00 AM, Jack wrote:
On Apr 30, 7:48 am, wrote:
On 30/04/2010 4:35 AM, bpuharic wrote:



gee. our free market non-socialist healthcare system is so effective
we just dropped from 45th in the world to 49th. we're now behind
libya!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36853510...e_health_news/

The U.S. lagged significantly behind, dropping to 49th in the rankings
for women and 45th for men. That puts it behind all of Western Europe
as well as countries including Peru, Chile and Libya.

"The U.S. is definitely on the wrong trajectory," said Chris Murray,
director of the Institute for Health Metrics at the University of
Washington, one of the study's authors. "(The U.S.) spends the most on
health out of all countries, but (it) is apparently spending on the
wrong things."

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gee. we spend the most on healthcare, and we DROPPED in quality. libya
now has better healthcare than the US.

aint the free market wunnerful!

Every problem needs a hammer right?

"Koyanagi and Shibuya said it wasn't clear why there were such major
differences among countries in adult deaths."

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Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.

The study wasn't even about health care... it was about adult death
rate. While the two are somewhat linked, you can't directly draw a
conclusion about one based solely on a study of the other. Of course
the health care in the US is better than in Libya. The adult death
rate may be higher for any number of other reasons ranging from
cultural factors to obesity.

Saying that it's because of the quality of health care is a false
conclusion, and one that the study did not make. Either buffy doesn't
understand this, or is deliberately trying to mislead us. Nah... he
wouldn't do that, would he?

Not really at all. Some place not too far from Tibet or somewhere in
that area of the world there was a town where their elders were routiely
over 100. No health care other than some local medicine and practices.
They set bones with branches an weave.

No technology, no electricity, not even batteries. No alarm clock, zip.
No corporations or unilateral big huge fat governments to support,
they had a simple unencumbered lifestyle. Their weaving machines
operated by hand, they would wake up and say I need a pair of pants and
just make them.

So by your logic, but probably better, perhaps the problem is health
care, too much of it. You spend more time worring about it so much you
get a heart condition and die early because between government taxes,
bank debt-servatude and other is isn't working.

Maybe that calming buddha meditation and easy going life style isn't
crap after all.

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Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.