On 25/04/2010 12:02 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 11:24:23 -0600,
wrote:

On 25/04/2010 9:40 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 09:11:00 -0600,
wrote:

Why should I? I worry about my family first

yep. typical right whiner. no patriotism. no honor. just pure
unadulterated greed.

Just like any other monkey this planet. You should read Maslow

ah. i see your problem. you're an authoritarian. you believe in sacred
texts and can't think on your own. that's why you're a right whiner.

Why make the same mistakes people made 100 years ago? I am not
authoritarian but respect authority to a point.

yes. i know about maslow. i minored in psychology, and went to nursing
school

Somehow I think you are bull****ing. If you really had a degree in
basic psychology you would know people are motivated by their needs and
their greeds. And greed isn't just about money, it could be
recognition, self worth, entitlement, manipulation...

the funny thing about maslow...from the viewpoint of a physical
scientist...there's precious little DATA to back him up. his is a
heuristic view of the world. good in its own doman, but pretty much
useless for actually looking at how the world works

None of these theries have proof and are "perfect". Just Maslow made a
lot of sense to me and use it to this day as it seems to be one that works.

you have no capability for independent thought, so NATURALLY think in
terms of authority, stereotypes and cliches.

I repeat, why make the same mistakes people made 100 years ago? I don't
have problems in accepting other peoples rational thoughts, and acepting
many of them. I freely admit I am a composition of many thoughts not
all of which are my own. It is how we learn.

-when it's pointed out unemployment has dropped under obama? you want
to change HOW it's measured

I question those with shakey numbers, fast taking abd bull****.

-when it's pointed out the US is the LEAST redistributionist economy
on earth? you say you don't care, that your theology requires it's the
MOST balanced.

So? Borrowing from a wise statement of the day, is this about same
rewards for all or equal access to opportunity?

-when it's pointed out the economy is growing you say it cant be
growing or you'd be wrong.

Because I don't think one dimensionally. GDP can grow but does not mean
people are employed or making more money or happier.

right wing cliches and bull****.

You like to hide behind that leftist crap.

. We all
be needy and greedy, it defines us all. Just what is your need and
focus of your greed. Motivates people well when you understand that.

gee. greed. no patriotism. no honor. no pride in a hard day's work

Again, you are thinking one dimensionally. If one has a need to be
honorable, pride etc., as most do, then they will become that to satisfy
the need. It fits.

you despise the middle class

Nope.

you hate working people.

Nope. They are the back bone of society. But governance is ****ing on
them with debt and bailouts robbing their wealth.

you've said it's all about you and your family.

#1 is my family in my life. As it should be.

me? i actually DO volunteer to help my country. i take PRIDE in being
middle class. i take PRIDE in america, and its people.

My wife does this too, no need for her to work. Even when we were in
the US as she wasn't allowed to work, she volunteered. Some idiot even
complained to INS once. Even INS brushed them off.

One thing I always admired about Americans is their pride in their
country. Much to be proud off, never before have so many lived so well
with the foundation of less but functional government and equal access
to opportunity. Mutual repect and foundation of law.

Now it is decaying.

you? you despise them all unless they're rich

Not as a rule. Just the ones that envy and want to use governemnt to
steal from successful people. Governemnt taxation should not be used
for GM, Citi, Chrysler, BAC and a long list of other corrupted entities.
And people who support this rape of wealth, well, they have lost their
values.

2003:
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul128.html

2005:
http://walkthrough.blogs.nytimes.com...version-means/

Look at the dates. Then read up on any tried and true economic book
printed. Rising debt and interest rate - recession/depression.

really? then, perhaps, you can tell me why the US had a higher
debt/GDP ratio after ww2 and built a world class economy.

How much debt is functional and how much debt you can afford is not
related at all to GDP. It is just a way to turd polish a bad situation.

How much you can borrow is related to how much you can pay. With a
middle class in debt up to it's ass, unlike WW II, today does not have
the payment elasticity of WW II. And when WW II ended, the cash flow
corrected it. No such correction exists today but for a massive
government downsizing. And I don't mean $30M Obama style, I mean $1.7
trillion style.

Any half baked president really out to serve his country would take
every governemnt department bar none and ask how does this help ALL
Americans *EQUALLY*. Then cut the bottom 50%. Take military spending,
reduce it by 60% and get the f--- out of Iran leaving a pillar. "If you
don't live civilly in this world, this will someday become ground zero."
then leave. Let them think about it.

oh. you don't know bet you dont even know what percentage of the US
budget goes for debt service, do you?

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

But know that with interest rates being so artificially low, that $193
billion each year or so could easily become a trillion with fair market
rates. As they are only paying a little under 1.4%. It really should
be 5%. They have also created a lot of Federal Reserve inflationary
funny money which means the interest rates will go up or the value of
the USD will go down and the truth will be inbetween.

Good news is individual debt is going down as smart people are getting
rid of debt anticipating higher interest rates.

Just that the stumps like you are so biased and closed minded you never
put credence to others, thought history would not repeat etc.

says the guy who thinks greed is good...

how'd that work out for wall street?

US holdings, pretty dam good for 2009 and so far in 2010. Up about 53%
in the last 4 years. And you?

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Socialism and statism are great as long as someone else pays for it.