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Point is, Richard, that you paint yourself (and have
many believers on
the right as a result of doing so) as a
non-partisan but your stripes
shine through in the most obvious way.


Believe me when I say you have no idea what my
"stripes" are.
You have a lot to say for someone who is so ignorant
of facts.


I expect crickets or a punt, so don't feel the need
to respond. You
won't disappoint me. Cuz, like you, I really don't
give a **** what
you think.


Absolutely incorrect. I do care. I just don't
respond well to narrow
minded, ill tempered and mean spirited people who
have no tolerance for
points of view other than their own. You seem to
have joined the "them against
us" mindset, regardless of political persuasion.

Discussing issues with people like yourself (who
would likely be
characterized as far more of an extremist than I) is
pointless.

Hope your business is doing well.

Eisboch

I don't think you addressed this point...

If a "conservative" would make a comment about a
Hispanic, it'd be
along the lines of "illegal, shiftless, lazy,
freeloader, scab, etc."

And you count Plume's comment about the Hispanic
population being
family-oriented and warm as being equivalently racist.

Is something about the second statement derogatory or
do you find
warm, family-oriented people to be offensive?

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GOOD GRIEF!

Eisboch



So, you refuse to address the point. Ok.

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Nom=de=Plume


All those hispanics warm and loving.
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...ecentersffe c

$1.4 Billion to incarerate illegals and they are mostly
hispanic. How many more hispanics that are legal are
incarcerated?



Please show me where I said "all" Hispanics.

Please show me where "all" white are honest citizens.

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Nom=de=Plume


You insinuated that there were very few not warm and
loving.

Actually, I said, "They are mostly a warm, friendly people
who care about family and community." I made no comment
about a quantity, except with the use of mostly, and that's
been my experience. Did you take a poll or are you just
upset that they're here?

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Nom=de=Plume



Mostly is a quantity. I am ****ed about the illegals. I
have legal friends that are Hispanic. Including a son in
law. I speak enough Spanish to hold a conversation in a
Spanish speaking country with a non English speaker. We
could end the illegal problem by the end of the week. Pass
another Bracero Bill. Work permits. We allow 100,00's of
thousands of educated workers in to keep down the wages in
the professional disciplines using the H-1 visa program. I
worked along side Bracero's as a teenager. No problem with
them. But we have caused the major problem with illegal
immigrants by awarding them benefits, and then amnesty. Pays
to break the law and come here without papers.


Ok. Well, I'm ****ed about illegals also. We have plenty of
laws on the books already. It's a matter of money for
enforcement. And, it's not economically or logistically
possible to deport 12 million people all at a time. The
current budget calls for an increase in funding for
enforcement, mostly auditing companies that are likely to hire
illegals. That is progressing, but too slowly. There are also
technical mechanisms (e.g., actually being able to cross-ref
social security numbers with birth dates, etc.) that would
help find those who use forged documents. We need to have
better border security, not so much for the Mexican/South of
the Border groups, as for terrorists.

We don't need civilians armed to the teeth patrolling the
border. That's just dumb on a number of levels. Nothing wrong
with spotters, but they need to be able to call law
enforcement to take action.

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Nom=de=Plume


But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government
is failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting
the nation.

Huh? If a company is found to be deliberately hiring illegals,
it's a big deal. What were the previous administrations doing?
Nothing. At least something is starting to happen.

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Nom=de=Plume


The previous administration had some huge raids, netting lots of
illegals. Be outcry over the poor peons being busted. And Tyson
Farms, who is a big Dem contributor, cried wolf.

The previous administration did little and underfunded the program
of enforcement. They made a couple of show raids, and that was
about it.

Suggestion: Get your head out of Dick Cheney's butt.

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Get your head out of Reid's but.

You're the one who keeps the dream of the last crappy administration
alive.

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Nom=de=Plume


I did not vote for the last administration and figured this one may
be OK. Wrong on this one being OK.

I doubt it. You don't sound like someone who would miss a chance at
voting for Bush/Cheney.

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Nom=de=Plume


Bad judge of character had to be added to your resume.

You're a liar. You lied about your "patents" among other things.

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Nom=de=Plume


You are an imcompetent patent person if you can not find my disk drive
patent.

You're a liar. Nothing like that is in the database under the name you're
using.

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Nom=de=Plume


Incompetent troll.


I think Nincdepoop has called everyone in the group a liar...except Harry, of
course.
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"Your honor can never be taken from you. Cherish it, in yourself and in others." (Unknown)

John H