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Point is, Richard, that you paint yourself (and have
many believers on
the right as a result of doing so) as a non-partisan
but your stripes
shine through in the most obvious way.


Believe me when I say you have no idea what my "stripes"
are.
You have a lot to say for someone who is so ignorant of
facts.


I expect crickets or a punt, so don't feel the need to
respond. You
won't disappoint me. Cuz, like you, I really don't give
a **** what
you think.


Absolutely incorrect. I do care. I just don't respond
well to narrow
minded, ill tempered and mean spirited people who have
no tolerance for
points of view other than their own. You seem to have
joined the "them against
us" mindset, regardless of political persuasion.

Discussing issues with people like yourself (who would
likely be
characterized as far more of an extremist than I) is
pointless.

Hope your business is doing well.

Eisboch

I don't think you addressed this point...

If a "conservative" would make a comment about a
Hispanic, it'd be
along the lines of "illegal, shiftless, lazy, freeloader,
scab, etc."

And you count Plume's comment about the Hispanic
population being
family-oriented and warm as being equivalently racist.

Is something about the second statement derogatory or do
you find
warm, family-oriented people to be offensive?

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GOOD GRIEF!

Eisboch



So, you refuse to address the point. Ok.

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All those hispanics warm and loving.
http://www.fairus.org/site/PageServe...ecentersffe c

$1.4 Billion to incarerate illegals and they are mostly
hispanic. How many more hispanics that are legal are
incarcerated?



Please show me where I said "all" Hispanics.

Please show me where "all" white are honest citizens.

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You insinuated that there were very few not warm and loving.

Actually, I said, "They are mostly a warm, friendly people who
care about family and community." I made no comment about a
quantity, except with the use of mostly, and that's been my
experience. Did you take a poll or are you just upset that
they're here?

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Mostly is a quantity. I am ****ed about the illegals. I have
legal friends that are Hispanic. Including a son in law. I
speak enough Spanish to hold a conversation in a Spanish
speaking country with a non English speaker. We could end the
illegal problem by the end of the week. Pass another Bracero
Bill. Work permits. We allow 100,00's of thousands of educated
workers in to keep down the wages in the professional
disciplines using the H-1 visa program. I worked along side
Bracero's as a teenager. No problem with them. But we have
caused the major problem with illegal immigrants by awarding
them benefits, and then amnesty. Pays to break the law and come
here without papers.


Ok. Well, I'm ****ed about illegals also. We have plenty of laws
on the books already. It's a matter of money for enforcement.
And, it's not economically or logistically possible to deport 12
million people all at a time. The current budget calls for an
increase in funding for enforcement, mostly auditing companies
that are likely to hire illegals. That is progressing, but too
slowly. There are also technical mechanisms (e.g., actually being
able to cross-ref social security numbers with birth dates, etc.)
that would help find those who use forged documents. We need to
have better border security, not so much for the Mexican/South of
the Border groups, as for terrorists.

We don't need civilians armed to the teeth patrolling the border.
That's just dumb on a number of levels. Nothing wrong with
spotters, but they need to be able to call law enforcement to
take action.

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But the law even if called does nada. The Federal Government is
failing in one of their primary duties. That is protecting the
nation.

Huh? If a company is found to be deliberately hiring illegals, it's
a big deal. What were the previous administrations doing? Nothing.
At least something is starting to happen.

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The previous administration had some huge raids, netting lots of
illegals. Be outcry over the poor peons being busted. And Tyson
Farms, who is a big Dem contributor, cried wolf.

The previous administration did little and underfunded the program of
enforcement. They made a couple of show raids, and that was about it.

Suggestion: Get your head out of Dick Cheney's butt.

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Get your head out of Reid's but.

You're the one who keeps the dream of the last crappy administration
alive.

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I did not vote for the last administration and figured this one may be
OK. Wrong on this one being OK.

I doubt it. You don't sound like someone who would miss a chance at
voting for Bush/Cheney.

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Bad judge of character had to be added to your resume.

You're a liar. You lied about your "patents" among other things.

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