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On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 00:58:27 -0500, wrote:

I agree these impositions are minimal if you want to look at what FDR
did. He held a whole race of people in prison without charges for 4
years, even American citizens. That makes Guantanamo look like cub
scout camp.

true. although bush DID try...

You really have to get over this obsession with Bush.

say what?

we got whole groups of folks here who think bush had no control over
the economy for 8 years...was all clinton's fault...but then obama
came in and, on jan 20 of last year, immediately spent a trillion
dollars on his first day in office

The Patriot act
was first floated out there by the Clinton administration and the
latest round of airport foolishness is from Obama.

and yet it was bush who tried to suspend habeas corpus; who arrested

As far as I am concerned, the biggest thing Bush did was get the left,
who usually think government can do no wrong, looking at this
surveillance more critically. When it was the Janet Reno DoJ pushing
the original Patriot act, those who dissented were called wingnuts and
kooks. Now the left thinks you can have too much surveillance ...
unless you think it is OK now.

the left has always been paranoid about police powers.

When true fascism comes it will be disguised in a program to make us
"safer".

or, as barry goldwarter said, it will come wrapped in the american
flag and carrying a cross

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