nom=de=plume wrote:
"Steve" wrote in message
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On 6-Feb-2010, Harry wrote:

When U.S. wages are equalized with 3rd world
countries, trade would be balanced - or, much better in practice, made
"fair" via the buying practices of the "American" ignoramuses. This
won't
happen, either - fat happy and stupid rules the day.

Huh? US exports have been up since 2007. As the dollar falls, exports
tend
to rise and tourism increases domestically.

These rightie tea-baggers are not connected to reality.
Exports ARE up, and disproportionately, imports - the "balance" is
worsening
and has been for 20 years - it's not a creation of the idiots Obama, Bush
or
even Clinton. It goes back to the mid 70's.

If you want to create jobs, especially in the short term, exports are a good
thing. Don't forget the economy grew by 6%.

Right. You sound like Alan Greenspan. And as credible.

The exports from North America are to an increasing degree raw materials,
e.g., iron ore, coal, wood, raw materials that are typical to the exports
of
any 3rd world country or colony centuries ago. Ships deliver manufacture
red
products to North America and return with raw materials for production
elsewhere.

This means nothing in the short term. The point is to increase jobs. You're
talking about trade deficits, which is a different thing.

Right. Other countries produce our goods, by working on jobs we don't
have, which creates a big part of the trade deficit.
That's why jobs and trade deficits are unrelated.
C'mon now, sure you're not spoofing Alan Greenspan?

Morons: This is not a "right wing" or "leftist bedwetter" subject - it's
about 4th grade economics, even in the U.S. government "educational
system."
Multiple levels of production produce wealth - countries that ship raw
materials to productive countries are exactly the same economic exchange
as
an African colony shipping raw rubber to the UK to produce tires 75 years
ago. The people in the colony live in the bushes, the productive nations
live at a much higher levels. Your wages are decreasing and will continue
to, until equilibrium is achieved with Southeast Asia.

Again, nothing to do with jobs in the short term.

Right. Stick your head in the sand. Real economics are pretty scary.

Example: General Motors was the largest company and largest employer (with
extreme multiple-levels of production and with thousands of suppliers) 40
years ago, with the highest wages worldwide and a burgeoning middle (high
middle) class. Now that same position is held by Walmart, with minimal
wages
and the overall population squealing for handouts. Get it?

Get it... GM failed as a company. Wal-Mart didn't. They're in two different
markets. Not much of an example.

I didn't think you would.

And of course you also get that GM is good jobs and production of real
goods, while Walmart is about bad jobs and consumption of foreign goods.

First step, you need to think. You've missed that step.

People who have worked productively in the "real" economy don't even
have to "think" about this sort of thing.

Get rid of the "left verses right" stupidity and focus on the basics. You
are myrmidons led by the nose, by corrupt political syndicates. How
lardasses can cruise around in Asian vehicles and load them with
overpriced
Chinese products while bitching about jobs makes me laugh.

Good idea. You should go for that. I'm sure you laugh at lots of things.
Like...

In 2nd and 3rd world countries, little kids don't know they're poor - they
are happy. Your kids will be in the same boat, likely unloading the boats
from countries that are doing what the U.S. and Canada did 50 years ago.

Child labor... sure is funny isn't it. I'm sure they really enjoy working
12+ hours a day in dangerous surroundings.

I doubt he wishes it on America. But you probably have no problem as a
liberal uber-consumer supporting the labor practices that make it possible.
And as a good liberal, what's good for the 3rd world is good for us, right?

It's time for you to go beyond being a shill for your favorite political
syndicate and quit bitching about what what YOU have created.

Poor baby! Stop watching Faux News.

Hardly Fox news-like opinions.
But he's a union thug, which means commie, so his opinions are as
worthless as your limousine liberal opinions.

Sarah in 2012!
Don't Let Dem Anti-feminism Sway You!