"Harry" wrote in message
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Jack wrote:
On Jan 20, 6:20 am, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:34:38 -0800, "CalifBill"





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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 17:48:22 -0800, "Bill McKee"
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010 12:47:14 -0800, C. Mor Butts

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when the people of MA give up their healthcare, let me know
YOu pay for that mandatory healthcare. It is not free.
http://www.politicsdaily.com/2009/10...echwriter-for-...
we already pay one way or another. infant mortatlity isn't free
either., and we have some of the highest in the western world
We also have a huge group of 3rd world people living here. We seem to
be
one of the only large countries in the world who look the other way
with
illegal immigration, or who allow sick people entry.
10% of france is muslim immigrants. yet they seem to do OK.


"It's expensive to provide this kind of health care and social
support. France's health care system is one of the most expensive in
the world."

"To fund universal health care in France, workers are required to pay
about 21 percent of their income into the national health care system.
Employers pick up a little more than half of that. (French employers
say these high taxes constrain their ability to hire more people.)"

With France's mean income tax rate hovering around 50%, you can hardly
say they're doing "OK".

You should move there. The taxes you'll pay will give you something
new to whine about.


Believe it or not, the pursuit of wealth is not the be all and end all of
life. In many European countries, the average person is far better off in
many ways than the average American in terms of health, educational
opportunities for their kids and themselves, retirement, vacation, et
cetera. Many Europeans have the sort of social welfare underpinnings that
help provide a decent life.

A good health care insurance program for a working family in this country
costs about $12,000 a year. This is for a family without a lot of excess
income, a family that hasn't the ability to put away thousands of dollars
in a medical savings account or in a method to defray high deductibles.
That's 20% or more of income.

Part of the problem we have in this country is that our taxes allow the
accumulation of massive amounts of wealth. All income should be taxable
during the working years, and the rates should be sharply progressive.

Especially when the US is conducting an expensive overseas war.