"Steve" wrote in message
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On 12-Jan-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

So you enjoy the demise and current status. That's your option. I moved
my
production to to Southeast Asia. "Americans" don't care where products
come
from, don't mind the high prices, and are satisfied by scraps from
their
rulers.

I respect your choice. I just cannot condone the conditions myself.


Enjoy the demise??? Demise of what? The demise? Is the sky falling yet?

The only way you would have not witnessed the demise would be if you are
extremely young. Perhaps you don't recall the era of a well-to-do middle
class and thriving core industries.

Come on... the US economy is fine. It's got problems, but it's not going to
collapse, except in a conspiracy fantasy.



You skedaddled because you're a patriot? Americans do care when presented
with facts not fear.

I moved operations for 2 reasons - 1) the customers were no longer in
North
America, and 2) the countries the production moved to do not permit
machinery and technology from the U.S. Japan is by far the worst offender,
Korea 10% less prohibitive, red China will import from the U.S. if first
sent to Korea in pieces, assembled, then sold into red China. 3 months
later
your systems will be cloned and you're still out in the dark. Why would
any
company remain in the U.S. when trade policies provide for such
absurdities.
The company needs to get out. Americans do NOT care where their junk comes
from. It can't be from lack of information, which only leaves stupidity
and/or sloth.

Feel free not to come back or to sell to Americans. Obviously, we're stupid.


The typical "American" reaction is "the companies are mismanaged, can't
compete..." That points toward stupidity. Administrations put policies in
effect that allow any country's firms to dump into the U.S., and at the
same
time, Japan, Korea and China tell the U.S. producers to F.O. The market
is
gone, and inferior products are sent to the U.S. which costs 80% less to
produce, but sell for 15% less than when produced in the U.S. Again, it
has
to be the stupidity of "Americans."

Some companies are mis-managed. Others are not and do fine. Sounds like you
don't understand the basics of international trade agreements. They're not
perfect, but they mostly work.


My choice is to remain and fight for right. I don't respect a choice that
involves quiting.

"Quitting" the economic battle in the U.S. now is the same quitting
screwing
the wife that divorced you 20 years ago.

?? Quiting is being unwilling to stand up for chance.


The only industries left in the U.S. are those that are still protected by
intellectual property (and not yet cloned by China) dying, or where
freight
cost considerations make shipping from overseas impractical. GM, Ford and
Chrysler will also be moving offshore, performing all fixed costs
overseas,
export, and operating final assembly plants in the U.S. This mode works
for
Toyota, Honda, and at the highest degree, Hyundai/Kia. All are well below
50% U.S. content (Toyota, Honda up to about 35-40% depending on model)
Hyundai is around 10%. "Americans" don't care. They are so dumbed-down
they
think "it's all George Bush's fault" and squeal for handouts from money
the
U.S. government borrows from the producer countries. That's not
complicated.

For the car industry perhaps. Perhaps not. There are plenty of small car
companies that are going for it.


"...but...but...but....it's made in Alabama." Hahhahahahahha.
...........sure.

Yep, it's stupidity.

The U.S. is now a merchant economy, like Peru, Syria, Cambodia,
Philippines,
etc. - poor people selling essentials and trinkets to each other while
earning minimum wages. OH! Almot forgot the growth
industries...government
"employment" and money laundering.

Like I said, feel free not to come back.

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Nom=de=Plume