On 12-Jan-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

So you enjoy the demise and current status. That's your option. I moved
my
production to to Southeast Asia. "Americans" don't care where products
come
from, don't mind the high prices, and are satisfied by scraps from their
rulers.

I respect your choice. I just cannot condone the conditions myself.


Enjoy the demise??? Demise of what? The demise? Is the sky falling yet?

The only way you would have not witnessed the demise would be if you are
extremely young. Perhaps you don't recall the era of a well-to-do middle
class and thriving core industries.


You skedaddled because you're a patriot? Americans do care when presented
with facts not fear.

I moved operations for 2 reasons - 1) the customers were no longer in North
America, and 2) the countries the production moved to do not permit
machinery and technology from the U.S. Japan is by far the worst offender,
Korea 10% less prohibitive, red China will import from the U.S. if first
sent to Korea in pieces, assembled, then sold into red China. 3 months later
your systems will be cloned and you're still out in the dark. Why would any
company remain in the U.S. when trade policies provide for such absurdities.
The company needs to get out. Americans do NOT care where their junk comes
from. It can't be from lack of information, which only leaves stupidity
and/or sloth.

The typical "American" reaction is "the companies are mismanaged, can't
compete..." That points toward stupidity. Administrations put policies in
effect that allow any country's firms to dump into the U.S., and at the same
time, Japan, Korea and China tell the U.S. producers to F.O. The market is
gone, and inferior products are sent to the U.S. which costs 80% less to
produce, but sell for 15% less than when produced in the U.S. Again, it has
to be the stupidity of "Americans."


My choice is to remain and fight for right. I don't respect a choice that
involves quiting.

"Quitting" the economic battle in the U.S. now is the same quitting screwing
the wife that divorced you 20 years ago.

The only industries left in the U.S. are those that are still protected by
intellectual property (and not yet cloned by China) dying, or where freight
cost considerations make shipping from overseas impractical. GM, Ford and
Chrysler will also be moving offshore, performing all fixed costs overseas,
export, and operating final assembly plants in the U.S. This mode works for
Toyota, Honda, and at the highest degree, Hyundai/Kia. All are well below
50% U.S. content (Toyota, Honda up to about 35-40% depending on model)
Hyundai is around 10%. "Americans" don't care. They are so dumbed-down they
think "it's all George Bush's fault" and squeal for handouts from money the
U.S. government borrows from the producer countries. That's not
complicated.

"...but...but...but....it's made in Alabama." Hahhahahahahha.
............sure.

Yep, it's stupidity.

The U.S. is now a merchant economy, like Peru, Syria, Cambodia, Philippines,
etc. - poor people selling essentials and trinkets to each other while
earning minimum wages. OH! Almot forgot the growth industries...government
"employment" and money laundering.