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"CalifBill" wrote in message
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On Jan 9, 9:07 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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I've been watching the TV show. In any case, a small boat is no
threat to
a big ship.

Captains Richard Phillips (MV Maersk Alabama) and Kirk Lippold (USS
Cole)
would think otherwise.

Eisboch

You're claiming that the WW boat was intent on holding the Japanese
crew and
cargo hostage?? That's your argument?

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Ma'am, I can't speak for Rich but I think he's demonstrating that
small boats can be a threat to craft larger than the Japanese whalers.
aka Somalian pirates. and Muslim terrorists that like to blow people
up along with themselves.

Anymore, if i was the captain of a large vessel,and a small (possibly
unflagged) boat approached at speed, I'd tend to be a shy bit leery
of their motives.

Reply:
Under the law, a commercial fishing boat in the act of fishing has right
of way over a small craft. Last year, some guy had to cough up about a
1/2 million bucks, from what I remember, to repair the bumper on the San
Raphael bridge after he cut off a large freighter that tried to avoid
the idiot. Hit the bridge bumper. Plus you can see the WW boat speed
up. So give the WW boat his wish and crash it with your massive steel
bow. But film it it cover your ass.


Again, I'm no expert, but looking at the Navigation Rules
(http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/navrules.htm), but Rule 7 seems
pretty clear. There's no mention of "right-of-way" as a factor that
invalidates it:

"Every vessel shall use all available means appropriate to the prevailing
circumstances and conditions to determine if risk of collision exists. If
there is any doubt such risk shall be deemed to exist."

Also, Rule 8 seems to apply. Thus, as I said previously, it appears that
both boats were at fault.

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Rule 17 does say the whaling vessel shall try to avoid another boat
ignoring the rules.
" This Rule does not relieve the give-way vessel of her obligation to
keep out of the way" and the WW vessel was obligated to keep out of the
way.

Rule 18
(a) A power-driven vessel underway shall keep out of the way of:

1.. a vessel not under command;
2.. a vessel restricted in her ability to maneuver;
3.. a vessel engaged in fishing;
4.. a sailing vessel.
Fishing has been ruled as commercial fishing.



I agree.. the WW was obligated, but since it didn't (at least that's the
argument, which isn't yet clear), the J boat needed to take evasive action.

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