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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 11:25:06 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Dec 29, 5:33 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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Today I opened my electricity bill to find a golden opportunity
for
an
Al Gore believer to step forward and do something about global
warming.

Here's the deal:

For only 1.5 cents more per kilowatt-hour of electricity usage,
I
can
purchase renewable energy certificates equal to 100% of my
monthly
usage. As I average about 1000 kWh per month, this would amount
to
*only* $15 per month in addition to my normal bill.

So, here is a chance to make a difference. You send me $15 per
month,
and I sign up for the program! Then, 100% of my electricity
usage
will
be from renewable energy sources, to wit: 69% wind and 31%
biomass
from facilities in Missouri, Indiana, and Louisiana.

WHAT A DEAL!

I know several of you will want to participate, so I must take
the
first offer. Also, as I don't want to jerk the electric company
around
every month, I'd like to get a years worth of payment in
advance.
Just
send a check for $180 and we're good.

Do you seriously think anyone here with half a brain would trust
you
with
$15? How about this... give me your electric company's phone
number
and
your
account number. I'll pay them the $180 directly. Put up or shut
up.

--
Nom=de=Plume

Cool. Send me an email. I don't want to broadcast my account number
over the internet. There are some folks here who are not very
trustworthy.

I understand your concern. I don't have your email address. You can
email
me
at .

Better yet, how about I send the info to Tim, and you send the $180
to
Tim?

I'm happy to send him email as well, but I don't have his email
address.
In
any case, I'm willing to pay the company directly, but I'm not
willing
to
send you or any individual a check.

Either way, let me know.

Done.

Disregard last. I called Dominion Power to see if it were possible
for
you to do what you suggested. It's not possible. The charges *must*
be
added to my electric bill.

So, let's look at alternatives. Are you saying there is no one here
that you trust with $180? We're not talking big money here.

If you send the money to Tim, I'll have my account adjusted. Then I
can publish a photo of my statement each month proving that I'm
paying
the amount.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.


How about this... you make the payment (I'm assuming you can afford
it),
post a copy of the paid bill with the extra $180, then I'll send you
money
order via regular mail. I'm going to France for a short trip beginning
on
1/1. Assuming there are no terrorists on the plane, I return Thursday
next.
If I see it's been paid, the MO will go out the next business day.

I really don't know anyone on this newsgroup. I prefer to stay
anonymous.

I can't pay the entire amount at one time. I can add 15 cents per
kilowatt hour used to my bill. Or, I can tell them to add $14 or $16
per month to my bill. The $180 is an estimate of what the additional
cost per kilowatt hour would be, given the average usage for a year.

I could have them add the 15 cents per kilowatt hour to my monthly
bill. Then I could post a copy of my monthly bill showing the amount
of increase due to the 'greening' of my electricity. Then you could
send me a check for the difference.

Agreed?
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.


Sure... either way is fine! I just don't want to send multiple MOs,
since
my
bank charges for more than a couple per year.

I was just tweaking you with the other email about plonking.

Well, if you sent me a check for the difference, you'd have to be
sending it every month.

The best way is for you to send $180. I then have Dominion add the 15
cent charge per kilowatt hour. Then every month I'll post a picture of
my bill.

If I fail to do so you can call me a liar and a cheat. Since I'm not
Harry, that would really bother me.
--
John H

All decisions, even those of liberals, are the result of binary
thinking.


How about I send you a double amount at the end of the first quarter? That
way, you've proved you're actually going to do it, and I've put up some
money going forward. Assuming I see an update credit at the end of two
quarters (at which point we'll be even), I'll send the balance.

How about you send me $45 now. I'll then sign up for the
$0.15/kilowatt hour charge and post copies of the next three bills"
--
John H

"The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other
people's money." --Margaret Thatcher


How about I not do that. I don't need to or want to call you a liar. I think
I've compromised enough, since I'd be paying up front for the next quarter.
That's more than fair. I don't know you and don't just "send money" without
some verification. I haven't even seen an email from you. I don't think I'm
being unreasonable.

In any case, I'll be back at the end of next week, so you have plenty of
time to mull it over.

$45 is a lot of money to send out. But on the other hand, folks like
you will send lots of money to the various 'carbon offset' scams going
on.

Unreal.
--
John H

"The problem with Socialism is that you eventually run out of other people’s money."
--Margaret Thatcher