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On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 13:54:24 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 10:26:43 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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Clinton had no reason to take OBL in Sudan. Bush had a
similar problem prior to 9-11 if he wanted to use the same probable
cause logic. After 9-11 it was simply "kill the *******", as it should
have been after the 1993 WTC bombing.
The football game screwed up my recording of 60 minutes
I didn't say that. I said that he had no legal authority to do so.
Bush's
problem was that he didn't follow through on what he should have, and
went
cowboy on Iraq, which was totally unjustified.
No argument on Iraq but I blame that on GHWB and Clinton for not
getting the hell out of there when Powell told them to.
Without the aerial occupation of Iraq for 10 years and the
infrastructure we built up around that, the invasion would not be
possible.
?? We needed to contain Saddam, which we were doing. We could have done
that
for another 20 years with very little loss of life.
No we couldn't. Saddam was slipping his "containment" by the time
Clinton left. We had lost most of western Europe as allies in that
fight. The embargo was a joke by then and we were getting a lot of bad
press for killing civilians in our effort to stop Iraqi radar sites
from lighting up our planes. Most of these sites were in residential
areas so we killed civilians almost every time we fired a HARM.
Every sortie over that country was an act of war in itself and there
were dozens every day.
Go look at some of stories coming out of the foreign press in
1999-2000. It was clear the Kurds were not going to rise up and kill
Saddam for us, not that we would be better off with running Iraq. It
was also clear the policy needed to change. That moron Bush jr just
went the wrong way.
There's no strong evidence that he was "slipping his containment." The
no-fly zone was working. The Kurds were pretty much autonomous at that
point. True, they weren't going to overthrow him, but he was powerless
against them having their own territory
(
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-fly_zone).
There were civilian deaths, but no where near as many as what happened after
Bush invaded. Not sure what you mean by him going "the wrong way."
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