On Dec 24, 3:58*am, jps wrote:
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:38:13 -0800, "nom=de=plume"



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On Dec 22, 6:07 pm, "Bill McKee" wrote:
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message

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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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On Dec 22, 3:18 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message

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YIKES, another physicist not funded by the anthropogenic global
warming funds:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/2...cosmic-rays-ma...
Warming caused by cosmic rays and ozone he says. Peer reviewed and
published in a real journal. He just did not get paid off in time but
you can bet he'll lose his funding.

I guess you missed the part about chlorofluorocarbons. Let me guess....
they're not created by humans.

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Nom=de=Plume

We are not using those CFCs anymore so no need for the huge UN
bureaucracy you want if this guy is correct.

Bzzzt. Wrong answer.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...9044919AAeN4Ek

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Yup, just like cutting carbon emissions in America. Ruin what we have left
of any manufacturing, while the rest of the world ignores the edict.

Tried to buy any R12 lately? *You can't. *It's all been virtually put
out of existence, at least here in the states.

I'm sure. And, the other sources? Did you look at the link?

What does "put out of existence" mean?

As usual, Jack the dingaling hasn't a clue. *You can buy cans of R12
on ebay or locally on craigslist any day of the week. *They may no
longer manufacture it or use in in manufacturing but there's still
plenty of it around.

No kidding... something has been regulated pretty much out of
existence, but it's still obtainable? That's a lesson for gun control
freaks, eh?

BTW... most of the stuff you're seeing are products like "Freeze 12",
which is tagged with "R12" for searching, but is a non-CFC replacement
for it. A few old cans pop up, and there's some reclaimed R12
available, but by law you have to be certified to buy and use them.
Of course the law means nothing to you... I'm sure you can buy crack
down at your corner.

"What's more, production of R12 ends December 31, 1995. After that
date, the only R12 that will be available will be that which has
already been stockpiled or can be recovered and recycled from existing
A/C systems."

So 15 years later, there's still some around. No new being
manufactured for 15 years, stockpiles dwindling. That's "pretty much
out of existence".