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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:39:07 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:44:14 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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There's no short period of savings. The CBO is projecting 10 years of
savings, and beyond that even more savings. Where are you getting the
notion
that the Medicare cuts won't happen?
http://www.whitehouse.gov/MedicareFactSheetFinal/

Suddenly, you're the tax expert?

No I just know how scared of old people the politicians are.

They are not going to cut Medicare in any real sense.
You are also ignoring the spending they are spinning off to the
states, well every state but Nebraska.

I don't think "old people" should be discounted. I think they should be
honored. They deserve (most of them) to live out their lives with some
dignity.

You're right. They're not going to cut the entitlements. They're going after
fraud, waste, and abuse.

The last president who had any success with that was Eisenhower.

I agree there is plenty of fraud waste and abuse in Medicare. Miami,
right across the swamp from me is ground zero for that.
The problem is, when you streamline administration and do what you can
to speed up payments you create loopholes a crook can drive a truck
through. One of the reasons insurance companies spend more for
administration is they spend more time processing claims and
investigating for fraud.
When they looked into the Miami fraud cases, what they found was the
government was paying the bill, then checking to see if it was valid.
By the time they figured out they were robbed, the crook was long
gone, packed up and moved down the road to scam them again under a
different name.

Personally I think we should have an exception to the "cruel and
unusual punishment" ban for people who steal from the government ;-)

You mean people who steal back?