Harry wrote:
On 12/20/09 2:58 PM, Canuck57 wrote:
D.Duck wrote:
Loogypicker wrote:
On Dec 20, 8:49 am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
Often I'm accused of "avoiding" truth when it comes to AGW. I'm the
"creationist" in a sense that I don't understand the highly complex
nature of climate anatomy. I'm picking on "details". I'm a corporate
schill. I don't understand "peer review" (even though I have "peer
reviewed" over 600 math texts, dissertations and master's thesis in my
life). Yada, yada, yada.

Ok - without getting into the politics, I want Loogy and the other AGW
types to defend this.

http://www.financialpost.com/opinion...tml?id=62e1c98...



Remember - this is your side - this is how you are presenting your
information. This describes what happens when one of the most widely
used sources of information is controlled and massaged and only one
side of the "science" is presented.

Go ahead - defend this.

I'll wait.

Okay. Just because SOME (a very small percentage) tried to cook some
books does in no way shape nor form prove whether or not global
warming is or isn't occuring.


It's not whether it's occurring or not, it's whether it will reach
some troublesome level.

And it might even be a blessing in disguise!


What?

How so?

Lets say the world on average goes up 6C. Real big amount, even more
than the zealots say is worst case. Lets theorize what happens. Some
of this is based on fact as it has occured before in recent and ancient
history.

http://www.physicalgeography.net/fundamentals/7x.html

Ok, the polar regions melt, 2/3rds of the ice is less than 10,000 years
old anyway. Polar regions will see most of the warming as evaporation
and ocean currents will regulate it. Contrary to the ocean is rising,
it may actually receed. Warmer polar air will carry much more vapor and
rainfall. And as ice melts it shrinks in volume with the release of
trapped gases and molecular contraction. Basic high school stuff, try
it, freeze water in a thin glass container and watch it crack when the
water hits -5C and expands.

Without the cold on the polar regions average humidity will increase.
Rain forests maybe even in Alaska. Vegitation in the north and southern
hemispheres grow more quickly retaining water on land, taller and more
prolific. A byproduct of this is more farm land, especially in Russia
and in Canada. Maybe even grow oranges in Wisonsin some day. Fish
population in northern lakes will grow quicky, making commercial
harvesting in Hudsons Bay and other large areas economical for food
harvesting due to fast growing fish stocks in warmer waters. Something
is going to have to give with Africa's population growth as food is
going to be soon short if they continue.

Who knows, golfing might not be so bad in January twilight in Fairbanks
Alaska or the Yukon. Certainly the fishing will be much better.

As new air currents form, less dry air, world percipitation is bound to
go up in most areas. Given fresh water is a problem for most countries
in the world, this is very good. Not much lives without water. Many
deserts will return to lush vegitation as was seen in other eras such as
the Jurasic. In fact, the Jurasic had 6 time todays carbon levels and
so much vegitation heards of dionosaurs did quite well. Reptiles
enjoyed the constant warm climate. Especally in the Jurasic Terrestrial
period where huge herds of herbivorous dinosaurs like the Brachiosaurus
would eat 400 pounds of food per day! That is a lot of carbon just in
breathing and craping, forge tthe methane. That is a lot of green salad
to feed herds of these.

The plants grew fast with lots of carbon, essential for most plant life
after all in this period and periods before it that is where the coal,
natural gas and oil really came from in the first place. Just dead
mater cooked for eons...carbon trapped and not released, it isn't even
man made. But the addtitional carbon allows for more vegitation which
we as humans need for one reason or another. Eat you peas, a main
ingredient is carbon as is the roast beef.

But something good can't be used by government and fraudsters to suck
money out of your pocket. The earth has checks an balances we don't
fully understand, but can see in the billions of years of fossil records
they exist. Even when a huge extinction even occurs, the earth gets
around to compensating for it. And causes are often intersellar, a
metor here and there. In fact the most prolific life diversity periods
atomospheric carbon was very high.

My suggestion is for mankind to forget CO2 issues, end silly wars, even
if you have to low yeild nuke'em. Nuking them burns less carbon,
imagine the pile of CO2 and plastics spent on middle east wars! We
waste far too much time on power, greed, herd insanity and feeding
politicial and social egos. Want to insure mankinds survival, go to the
stars and populate elsewhere and work on social evolution to match
technology. As one of these next items can end it all in short order,
just like many of the the mass extinction events in the past.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:%2...9_mathilde.jpg

Now that could be a problem worth the hype as there will be no boating
with beer for many, many years.... CO2 is designed to keep our minds off
of strife, off of our governments screw ups of economics, off the flaws
of modern society. Feeds the idle minds fear and off of the real
issues. Sort of like teach them to hate somethign else like CO2, and
they will hate you less. It is herd management for tax slavery.

We as a species think too shallow to last on more than shier luck.
Andromeda Strain, The Omega Man all possibilities as out of control
herds of humans can develop something it now. But we don't have the
social controls in place to prevent it. Who knows, many H1N1 or AIDS
mutates...history is full of plagues. But as H1N1 is turning out, just
FUD that sells lots of mercury vapor (polutant) laced drugs for profit.

But at least it might be warmer in the mean time. Can't say skin holds
up well in sub-zero temperatures now or 10,000 years from now. Lets
hope the crazies are right and it is actually warming. Remember, it
wasn't that long ago the junk scientists said it was cooling. 10 years
is squat in earths history and for that much to change smells of knee
jerk junk science.

So please go to bed with greenie FUD induced fear. Me, I will go to bed
knowing the sun will rise and the world will be here. Even if it isn't,
I would rather enjoy my much too short of a life than pander to bull****
fraudsters.