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For the children's sake...
On Dec 13, 3:11*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"John H" wrote in message
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On Sun, 13 Dec 2009 10:02:26 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:
On Dec 10, 11:05 am, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
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On Dec 10, 9:00 am, jps wrote:
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 22:07:19 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:
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On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:45:43 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:
wrote in message
news
On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:06:42 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 17:01:16 -0600, wrote:
On Wed, 9 Dec 2009 12:44:43 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:
http://blog.simplejustice.us/2009/11...wi-bill-compou...
NY just passed a new law to protect kids. Now it is a felon, to
drive
DWI/DUI with children 15 years of age or less on board.
That ought to help save lives!
George Orwell just wasn't too far off...
Not that you asked, but my opinion is that anybody driving DUI
with a
passenger should be prosecuted as a felon.
I realize that many share that view, and it may be a consensus
view.
I
don't. IMHO, persons who injure another out of their own
irresponsible actions should be subject to equitable and severe
penalties meted out by the justice system. I think that
legislated
behavioral controls are Orwellian and rob the individual of his
or
her
personal autonomy.
Ummm... laws are not a form of behavioral control?
To state the case generically does not do the topic justice. There
is
a distinction here between retributive justice and preventive
sanctions. The question is which application respects an
individual's
personal autonomy and responsibility. Preventive sanctions presume
that the individual must be compelled by legislation to be
civically,
morally, and ethically responsible. In this sense, the individual's
autonomy must necessarily be reduced for what is considered the
social
good. IMO, this stands in contrast to the deference given to
personal
autonomy and liberty by the earliest lawmakers in this country.
We've
become to conditioned over time, as a society, to accept the
utility
of preventive sanctions at the cost of personal liberty, and this
to
the point that a perspective such as mine is considered savagely
extreme. I don't think my perspective would have seemed extreme in
this country's youth. Retributive justice does not presuppose that
the individual must be necessarily be constrained for the good of
society.
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Hate to break it to you, but we live in this century, not the 1700s.
Get
with the program. The conditions and situations are vastly different.
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