On 11/25/09 9:49 PM, jps wrote:
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:26:30 -0500, H the
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On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:40:47 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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If they file Chapter 7, the boats in the yard can be quickly returned
to
the owners. If they are torn apart, in the middle of a service, you
are
out of luck and will have to pay someone else to finish the job. If
they
have an account started with you, with a balance, the bankruptcy court
can attempt to make you pay for the benefit of the trust.

Rob - Been there, different circumstances.

It depends on what you consider to be "quickly". In many cases a
Chapter 7 filing ... voluntary or involuntary ... results in all the
assets
and property (owned by the business or not) being held until the
bankruptcy court
plows through all the records. It can take months.

I had a similar experience to John's a few years back in Florida.
I had a Scout stored at a boat yard storage and repair place.
The bank called a note on them and they were forced into
Chapter 7. There was no direct notice to those of us with boats at
the yard.

Similar to John, I became suspicious when I could no longer contact
them. I took a ride to the yard only to find it locked up with a steel
gate
that was padlocked. I sat there for a while in my truck and noticed a
van
pull up, unlock the gate and pulled into the yard. I quickly pulled up
behind him and entered as well.

The guy in the van got out and started yelling at me that they were
"closed".
By this time the situation was clear in my mind, so I pulled my truck
around
him and backed it up to my boat and trailer. Told him I was taking my
boat.
He said I couldn't .. they were "bankrupt" and everything in the yard
had
been
frozen by the court.

He ran into the building to call somebody.

Meanwhile, I noticed that the trailer had a flat tire. Another guy
came
out
and helped me put a little air in the tire and he then got the keys to
the
van
and moved it. Apparently he didn't realize what was going on.

I dragged the boat/trailer out of the yard to the nearest gas station to
fill up the
tire and then headed home. Checked the local "legal notices" for the
town
and discovered they were in bankruptcy. Never heard from them again.

Eisboch
That's a scary situation. What would you have done if the police showed up
before you split?
Nothing?

So, you're a cop. What are you going to charge him with? Theft of his
own property? Breaking? Nope. Entering? Nope, the gate was open.
Trespassing? Nope.... he had a right to be there if he was paid up.

These are civil, not criminal issues. The cops *really* don't want to
deal with this.

Google replevin and detinue. You'll have a much cheaper education in
this than mine....


If the police show up, you better be able to prove it's your boat. If you
can't immediately, they'll haul your butt in and sort it out there. You can
call it civil if you want, but the facts on the ground will be your butt
sitting in jail until someone shows up with the pink slip.


You tell him, the assholes in rec.boats are too stupid to bring a valid
ID and their boat registration. They are all morons.
I wonder why you and I hang out with these idiots. Would you like to
get together for a beer and whatever?

Looks like Bad Jim found a temporary way to skirt people ignoring him.

The style is certainly southern Alabama.



Flajim? Interesting. Once a piece of navy****, always a piece of navy****.


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If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob,
achmed the sock puppet, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting
your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because,
well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster, and I
don't read the vomit you post, except by accident on occasion. As
always, have a nice, simple-minded day.