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H the K[_4_]

On 11/3/09 12:10 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:51:53 -0500, H the
wrote:

The scam is what activists are saying we need to do to "fix" it.
Basically, what ever their agenda was 30 years ago is now revived to
stop global warming. (higher gas taxes, stop eating meat. ban cars,
ZPG or whatever)

Higher gas taxes, eating less meat, driving smaller cars and
controlling population would benefit all of us, whatever the motivation.

So sell it that way and stop making up lies that this will stop global
climate change in any way at all.

It is like the Iraq war. If we had just said at the outset, this was
to stop an Iraqi/Isreali war, we could have made a rational decision.
As it was we had a lie, compounded by obfuscation and denial.
It certainly had noting to do with oil but that was what the left
said. (Saddam would have been more than happy to sell us oil at a
bargain price)
The right talked about direct threats to the US and that is BS too.

Sell it *that* way? There are many reasons to support higher gas taxes,
eating less meat, driving smaller cars and controlling population growth.

As for the Iraq war, I don't buy the reason you gave, either. It wasn't
about oil and it wasn't about preventing an Israeli/Iraqi war.

What it was about: a fallback for the Bush Administration, which, up
until the time it decided to invade Iraq, had utterly failed in its
promise to catch those responsible for planning and implementing the
9-11 attacks. It was neocon meat thrown to boobus Americanus, and meant
to help avoid a GOP debacle in the 2002 congressional elections.

It was a war started for the most cynical of reasons. Cheney should have
been indicted, arrested, convicted and imprisoned.