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jps

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:30:28 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 15:00:27 -0400, H the K
wrote:

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And where do you stand exactly in the class struggle, Harry? You
inarguably have made it quite clear that you deem it to be an insult
to be cast with the lower classes. What style of progressivism do you
subscribe to, Harry? One of elitism?

You apparently are not a careful reader.

I assume we are not discussing Marxism here.

I stand "exactly" with the middle class, with those who are trying to
maintain their standing in it, and with those who are trying to achieve
it. I believe in extending a hand to those in the lower socioeconomic
classes who are *working* to achieve "middleclassdom." That "hand"
should include a way to pay for decent, readily available health care
insurance/coverage for themselves and their families, good public
schools, safety on the job, job retraining if they need it, et cetera.

I believe this country rises or falls on the success of the middle
class. I don't believe a right-wing financial oligarchy serves this
country. I believe that economic policy should promote expansion of the
middle class.

This is really rather depressing. If there is an attitude that can
subdue the spirit of individuality and a charter that denies the
individual the mobility to do with his life as he pleases, this screed
embodies it. What was once a burgeoning optimism in the youth of a
foundling nation in whose design lay the seminal notion of the
empowerment of the individual, there is now a gloomy surrender to the
premise that the individual must subordinate his potential to the
state, for the good of the state and the security of all. The
pretense of a duty to the state by the individual for the common good
is nothing more than a perfidious ploy to bridal any passion for
individuality and personal responsibility. The extended hand of the
collective is the hand that robs the individual, and it serves as a
cruel metaphor for the villiany of unbounded aspirations. It is an
unwarranted disdain for the successes of the inspired individual that
drives this pernicious philosophy, a comportment that disguises itself
as dutiful compassion. Fortunately, that 'compassion' has been
exposed in this thread for what it is - envy, superciliousness,
condescending patronage, contempt, and hate. Describing one's loyalty
to the middle class does not palliate a personal loathing of the less
fortunate, and it does not elevate the world of insults that defines
you.

Bye now.

You are a very confused soul. It's as if you assume you owe nothing
whatsoever to your fellow citizen or the system that allows your
individualism, creativity, livelihood or freedom.

You paint this duty to your nation as a burden that will flatten your
soul. What a crock of ****.

Try growing up black in a city that doesn't welcome your race. Then
let's talk about how you've been undermined by a tilted field.

You poor, white, Christian. You're so put upon.

Maybe you should go to Australia. No, probably not. They don't like
pussies down under.