On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:53:09 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:49:43 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 04:37:46 -0600, Vic Smith
wrote:

On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:28:30 -0400, H the K
wrote:

On 10/26/09 6:22 AM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 00:55:30 -0400, wrote:


Besides, that article has some other gems, such as the there's no
evidence the private insurers do any better with fraud than does
Medicare.


Did you see 60 Minutes tonight? They are talking about billions in
medicare fraud.

No, missed that. But see above. Maybe you missed it.
Somehow the Medicare fraud doesn't bother me as much after seeing
that.
After all, we're paying almost 10 times more to Aetna than to
Medicare.
So for every buck of mine going to a crook cheating Medicare, there's
nearly a sawbuck of mine going to the crook cheating Aetna.
Great system. Pretty equitable for the crooks percentage wise.
Lucky I can afford it. Good luck to those who can't.
They'll need it.

--Vic


Note that the medicare fraud on display in 60 minutes last night was not
being committed by the government, but by private-sector, for-profit
individuals.

Yep. Health care providers all.
Somebody's got to pay for that Mercedes.

--Vic

You missed the point. It's a government run system riddled with fraud.
Now the government is trying to institute a *bigger* government run
system, which will still be administered by individuals. You don't
think the fraud will increase likewise?

Nope, you're missing it. Maybe you missed where private insurance
companies are doing the Medicare billing, and that private health
insurance providers are committing the fraud.
BTW, I never saw anybody in the Navy caught or convicted of fraud, and
I bet you didn't tolerate financially scamming the public in your Army
career. Outside of letting a skater slide now and then.
Interestingly enough, I witnessed a couple accountants "disappearing"
while in private industry. Caught defrauding. Not prosecuted though,
because it "wouldn't look good." Gets hushed up.
And I wasn't even in a position to know the depth of those kind of
problems. Just friendly with a couple of those who did know.
Of course we know fraud happens in government.
We hardly know squat about what goes on in "private enterprise."

--Vic

My brother, a retired cop, now works as an investigator of insurance
fraud for a health insurer. So I know that the civilian firms actually
do 'something' to prevent fraud. I don't think we have any idea of the
scope of the fraud going on with Medicare. As a Medicare recipient,
I'll say that it seems like it would be very easy to do.