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Vic Smith
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On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 22:14:27 -0400,
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First, show me a place where the government actually negotiates the
cheapest price? They usually pay significantly more than private
industry when you add in the bureaucratic overhead.
Medicare should not be your ideal. The fraud and waste rate is
estimated to be up around 20% and a lot of doctors just avoid medicare
patients. It is still one of the most expensive programs in the
government taking 3% of every wage dollar in the country, serving
15-16% of the people..
Hell, the cat is out of the bag.
VA and DOD negotiate and get lower drug prices.
And that +half trillion dollar Medicare part D boondoggle passed a few
years ago - and not paid for - went through without the right for
Medicare to negotiate drug prices.
Pols paid off by the drug industry. A drug industry that spends more
on advertising than research, and can't even provide H1N1 vaccine.
Have to get it from overseas.
Don't know about shareholder value. That might be okay.
Like I give a **** about health care or drug company shareholders.
Why do you think the providers whine about Medicare reimbursement
rates?
Yet I don't know a single person on Medicare that has a problem
finding a good doc. Might happen in the sticks, but that can be
handled.
What will the poor underpaid docs do when their cut back on how many
exotic cars they can garage? Flee to Cuba?
****ing commies. Let 'em go kiss Castro's ass.
I already said fraud has to be severely punished.
Your numbers are a bit distorted, seeing as how Medicare is insuring
only all the old folks, who need the most, and most expensive health
care.
You got to kidding me about Medicare adman costs being more than
private insurance admin and Wall Street vigorish.
You'd have to show me some real numbers.
Everything I've read indicates the reverse.
Besides, just doing the annual Aetna enrollment it struck me how
expensive the materials package is.
It's like a ****ing Hollywood production.
Hey, no big deal.
Vic and Dorothy will pay for that.
3% of every wage dollar for Medicare?
**** that. Here's a real number for you.
My wife is paying 27.5% of her gross on top of that 3% - to the
insurance companies.
You sound like a real status quo guy.
I'm not buying the status quo no mo'.
Nor are most others.
The cat is out of the bag. Americans are pretty aware they are
getting hosed with the health insurance scam.
--Vic
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