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Vic Smith

On Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:01:18 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:28:18 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:29:07 -0400, wrote:

I agree that if someone changes insurance, they should get a break on
pre-esisting conditions (perhaps bringing some money along from the
company they have been paying into) but if this is someone who made
the conscious choice NOT to buy insurance, then they get sick and
suddenly want it ... fkm. You spun the wheel and took your chances.
Sell all of that "stuff" you needed more than insurance.

Let's assume for a minute that your subject was working for Walmart or
some other outfit making $10/hr and had to chose between a deduction
for health insurance or having enough money for food and rent?

**** 'em?

That sounds more like a problem getting affordable health care than an
"insurance" problem.

The insurance companies and the health care providers are all tied up
together. The high rates providers charge for their service is no
different than the Patco air traffic controllers that Reagan snuffed
out, except instead of a union the providers have lobbyists buying off
Congress.
Why should the insurance companies fight for lower health costs when
they can just up the premiums?
Besides, they get a good cut of the premium.
Now that system is falling apart. Tough ****.
Medicare reimbursement rates for all providers wouldn't lead to
reduction in the quality of health care, but more competition in
providing it. Still lots and lots of money there to go after.
It's just another commie-type industry, protected by the state.
The gov can set Medicare rates so the docs don't go to the poor house,
and toss all the defrauders in jail.
That's how it should be done. Good luck.

If the health care itself costs more than you make I am not sure what
to say except we need to find a cheaper way of providing the care. The
bookie really doesn.t change that

Sure does. The gov gets provider costs down with Medicare.
It's not funded and policed like it should be, but they pay less for
the same.
Let's call it bargaining power.
None of my bookies would bargain with me, no matter how much they
wanted my business.

--Vic