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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:51:17 -0400, John H.
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:42:40 -0400,
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:44:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Politicians lost their will. I agree. That would be
Nixon, since LBJ
escalated. Thus, we lost the war. Facts not bull**** of
any kind.
Just like the Crusade we are on now,
That war was not going to be won.
Neither conflict is currently a crusade. That's from a
different
administration. It's unclear what the outcome is going to
be in either
place.
I bet your average Iraqi or Afghani can't tell the
difference, nor can
the GIs who are getting blown up by road side bombs or in
mountain
ambushes.
This is a war of necessity.

It is necessary that we *win* this war.

So saith the messiah.

What happens if he decides to leave? Will we have *lost*?
This is the messiah of change and he has demonstrated it is
easy to
change his mind on things. A couple CNN polls seems to do
the trick.
I think we are going to declare victory, cut and run ... at
least I
hope so.
What's wrong with changing your mind about something? If you
can't do that, you shouldn't be in charge.

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There is no problem with his changing his mind. Unless it is
because a CNN poll says he should change his stance. We did
not hire him to be an arbitrator of popularity. He needs to
learn the "Buck Stops Here" part of the Presidency.
I agree. What makes you think he's being an arbiter of
popularity?

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He is being like Clinton. Following the polls. CNN, etc poll
says people prefer this, then O seems to follow along. Clinton
should have made the hard decisions instead of the popular
decisions and he would have gone in to the books as one of the
great Presidents.
And, you know this because? Which polls do you think he's
following? Perhaps you're talking about the "public option" that
70ish % of the population supports? Yup, he's following the
polls!

Which hard decisions didn't Clinton make? Ummm... let's see..
Bosnia, Somalia, gay in the military, a balanced budget, a
surplus....

During his worst nightmare aka Monica he retained high public
support. I guess he was just following the polls.
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He did not leave a surplus! The National debt did not go down.
The dot.com bubble just poured more money in to the coffers than
they could spend right away. Lots of that money was committed to
future spending, which is hurting us now. Same thing with
California. So much extra cash that the budget has doubled in the
last 8 years before now, and lots of that money was committed as
if the gobs of extra money was a permanent source. Bosnia was and
is a disaster. Still an ongoing disaster, and was a European
problem. Did not concern us. Somalia. He refused the heavy tanks,
etc that were requested. Black Hawk down was a disaster because of
no heavy armor. Why didn't Clinton authorize gays in the military,
instead of pushing under the rug? Man up Clinton. Make a ruling.
Just like Truman ruled the military was desegregated. Make the
ruling. As to gays destroying the military. Seems to work ok in
the UK and some other European countries. Clinton was extremely
lucky on the financial front. It was already starting to crash,
before the election. And Gore accelerated the meltdown with his
election claims. Clinton should have fired Greenspan or at least
had looked at the overheated market. But Clintons choice of
advisors was lacking a lot of knowledge. Barrack is listening to
some polls on the healthcare. Those who think they should have
free healthcare. Same ones who thought he was going to pay their
mortgage and put gas in the tank. Too many problems just now to
tackle healthcare. Man Up. Tell the country we need health care,
and we will take a year or two and get it correct. Not a 1000 page
bill no one is allowed to read, or have 15 minutes to look at it
and vote. Direct the justice Department to prosecute any body
who was in charge of Naked Shorts and uncovered short sales on
Wall Street, and force them to return all profits and 10x punitive
damages. Including Paulson's buddies. Fire the Fannie Mae and
Freddie Mac officials, not give them a $2 mega buck signing bonus.
He is listening the polls (slanted polls) and doing leadership
that way. He is not stupid, he is also not an Einstein, but he is
naive as hell.

You might want to trim your rants or at least break them up into
intelligible paragraphs. Too much jumble for me to even try to
respond to without wasting lots of time. Believe what you want.
It's a free country (expecting another rant any second.....).

He presented you with a lot of food for thought and you complain
that he didn't make a neat little finger sandwich out of it.
If I were him I'd let you go hungry rather than trying to spoon feed
you.

Not really. Mostly just rants about Clinton, intermixed with a bunch
of nonsense. Why don't you feed yourself... seems like you need some
intellectual nutrients.

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Can not help it if you are reading comprehension challenged.
Can not help it if you don't know how to write... perhaps take a
writing class at a local JC.

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Is a test of your reading comprehension. Maybe you should take a class
at the local JC.

Wow. You are such a smart person!

Hey Bill. This coming from the smart and pretty, outspoken, slightly
overweight, Iclandic goddess with mousy brown hair down to her shoulders,
you should be flattered.

Funny and fairly accurate except about the "slightly overweight" and "mousy
brown hair" goddess. I'm not overweight and my hair is black (well, mostly).

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