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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 06:51:17 -0400, John H.
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On Wed, 21 Oct 2009 00:42:40 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 20:44:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 13:32:48 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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Politicians lost their will. I agree. That would be
Nixon, since LBJ
escalated. Thus, we lost the war. Facts not bull**** of
any kind.
Just like the Crusade we are on now,
That war was not going to be won.
Neither conflict is currently a crusade. That's from a
different
administration. It's unclear what the outcome is going to
be in either
place.
I bet your average Iraqi or Afghani can't tell the
difference, nor can
the GIs who are getting blown up by road side bombs or in
mountain
ambushes.
This is a war of necessity.

It is necessary that we *win* this war.

So saith the messiah.

What happens if he decides to leave? Will we have *lost*?
This is the messiah of change and he has demonstrated it is
easy to
change his mind on things. A couple CNN polls seems to do the
trick.
I think we are going to declare victory, cut and run ... at
least I
hope so.
What's wrong with changing your mind about something? If you
can't do that, you shouldn't be in charge.

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There is no problem with his changing his mind. Unless it is
because a CNN poll says he should change his stance. We did
not hire him to be an arbitrator of popularity. He needs to
learn the "Buck Stops Here" part of the Presidency.
I agree. What makes you think he's being an arbiter of
popularity?

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He is being like Clinton. Following the polls. CNN, etc poll
says people prefer this, then O seems to follow along. Clinton
should have made the hard decisions instead of the popular
decisions and he would have gone in to the books as one of the
great Presidents.
And, you know this because? Which polls do you think he's
following? Perhaps you're talking about the "public option" that
70ish % of the population supports? Yup, he's following the polls!

Which hard decisions didn't Clinton make? Ummm... let's see..
Bosnia, Somalia, gay in the military, a balanced budget, a
surplus....

During his worst nightmare aka Monica he retained high public
support. I guess he was just following the polls.
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He did not leave a surplus! The National debt did not go down. The
dot.com bubble just poured more money in to the coffers than they
could spend right away. Lots of that money was committed to future
spending, which is hurting us now. Same thing with California. So
much extra cash that the budget has doubled in the last 8 years
before now, and lots of that money was committed as if the gobs of
extra money was a permanent source. Bosnia was and is a disaster.
Still an ongoing disaster, and was a European problem. Did not
concern us. Somalia. He refused the heavy tanks, etc that were
requested. Black Hawk down was a disaster because of no heavy armor.
Why didn't Clinton authorize gays in the military, instead of
pushing under the rug? Man up Clinton. Make a ruling. Just like
Truman ruled the military was desegregated. Make the ruling. As to
gays destroying the military. Seems to work ok in the UK and some
other European countries. Clinton was extremely lucky on the
financial front. It was already starting to crash, before the
election. And Gore accelerated the meltdown with his election
claims. Clinton should have fired Greenspan or at least had looked
at the overheated market. But Clintons choice of advisors was
lacking a lot of knowledge. Barrack is listening to some polls on
the healthcare. Those who think they should have free healthcare.
Same ones who thought he was going to pay their mortgage and put gas
in the tank. Too many problems just now to tackle healthcare. Man
Up. Tell the country we need health care, and we will take a year
or two and get it correct. Not a 1000 page bill no one is allowed to
read, or have 15 minutes to look at it and vote. Direct the
justice Department to prosecute any body who was in charge of Naked
Shorts and uncovered short sales on Wall Street, and force them to
return all profits and 10x punitive damages. Including Paulson's
buddies. Fire the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac officials, not give
them a $2 mega buck signing bonus. He is listening the polls
(slanted polls) and doing leadership that way. He is not stupid, he
is also not an Einstein, but he is naive as hell.

You might want to trim your rants or at least break them up into
intelligible paragraphs. Too much jumble for me to even try to
respond to without wasting lots of time. Believe what you want. It's
a free country (expecting another rant any second.....).

He presented you with a lot of food for thought and you complain that
he didn't make a neat little finger sandwich out of it.
If I were him I'd let you go hungry rather than trying to spoon feed
you.

Not really. Mostly just rants about Clinton, intermixed with a bunch of
nonsense. Why don't you feed yourself... seems like you need some
intellectual nutrients.

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Can not help it if you are reading comprehension challenged.
Can not help it if you don't know how to write... perhaps take a writing
class at a local JC.

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Nom=de=Plume

Is a test of your reading comprehension. Maybe you should take a class at
the local JC.

Wow. You are such a smart person!

Hey Bill. This coming from the smart and pretty, outspoken, slightly
overweight, Iclandic goddess with mousy brown hair down to her
shoulders, you should be flattered.