On Sep 24, 12:17*pm, John Kuthe wrote:
On Sep 24, 8:42*am, Davej wrote:





On Sep 24, 5:27*am, TimIngram wrote:

[...]
The ACA has deliberately made canoes and kayaks as dangerous
as possible,

The ACA does not manufacture canoes, kayaks, or any related gear.

designing "rescues" that capsize rescuing canoes and
kayaks for an even higher death toll, to create demand for even more
expensive and deadly "rescues" that no judge or jury in America can
make work.

And there is no agency in the entire world that teaches anything
different.

[...] Hundreds of these deaths, among over 1,500 dead Americans
since 1993

And you have zero evidence that any of these people would have
purchased your flawed and impractical product. They didn't purchase
wetsuits. They didn't purchase drysuits. The ACA CLEARLY RECOMMENDS
DRESSING FOR THE WATER TEMPERATURE.

1500 deaths since 1993? That's about 95 deaths per year? Over 40,000
people are killed in automobiles EVERY year. That's better than a
400:1 ratio. Why don't you petition for a national speed limit of 20
MPH?

Because that would not further Mr "Sponson Boy, RBP's sick puppy"
Ingram's business venture!

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Human denial and sometimes criminality are sufficient to deny innocent
children and adults a simple means to save their lives and any other
victims in the water in 5 seconds, without expensive and fraudulent
"rescue" instruction. Normally human life is valued in society, as
proven by lifesaving organizations, for centuries in most countries.
Rec.Boats.Paddle posters may choose to make it impossible for victims
to get out of the water for many reasons: money from fraudulent
instruction, the feeling of ego power by murdering innocent people,
even common stupidity.

Sponsons are the only means to stabilize flooded or unflooded canoes
and kayaks so victims can get out of deadly water in 5 seconds, stay
out, and paddle to safety. American citizens deserve democracy, like
the citizens of Iraq and Afghanistan. Best to start in America,
first,
where a huge death toll has been achieved by the criminal actions of
the American Canoe Association, that forces deadly (but profitable)
fraudulent instruction on innocent American men, women and children,
who are then blamed for their own agonizing deaths. The Health
Insurance Scheme, like the canoe and kayak scam, has also killed
thousands of innocent Americans for profit. It was better once in
America:

"" In this book I would like to emphasize rescue techniques other
than
the Eskimo roll because a backup technique is mandatory...given that
relatively few sea kayakers will ever roll successfully and because
workable alternative techniques are too often neglected...The great
advantage of the Sea Wing (sponsons) is that it leaves the paddler in
a more stable position than before the capsize." (John Dowd, Sea
Kayaking, 3rd edition, 1997, pp.90-95)


"So few sea kayakers are able to perform the roll...most people fall
out of the boat." Kayak Touring '98 (p.48) Assisted rescues risk
kayaks slamming against one another, while holding onto slippery
kayaks, resulting in serious injury. The assisted rescue then leaves
the rescued victim in exactly the same capsizing conditions, with no
protection against another capsize, (that can be provided by
sponsons).


"A capsized paddler who Eskimo rolls is still in the same conditions
that capsized him or her in the first place, and with each roll he
or
she will take on more water, lessening the kayak's stability." Matt
Broze, Deep Trouble, p.91


"The Paddlefloat is not really a rough water rescue. During trials I
found the SEA WING (sponsons) ... very comforting. I paddled out to
sea in rough, windy conditions...I was able to sit on my rear deck-
not
something I would normally do at sea...The rescue potential is
obvious." (Derek Hutchinson, The Complete Book of Sea Kayaking, pp.
104-111)


"I thought these were a better idea, and have turned my old paddle
float bag into a camera case." (Dave Harrison, Editor in Chief, Canoe
and Kayak Magazine, July 1993.)


"However Reimer was an experienced sea kayaker...His Eskimo roll was
not strong, so there was only his paddlefloat." He was unable to get
back in, like most experienced paddlers.
"Hanging onto his upside-down boat, he lifted his paddle over his
head. In spite of the rough seas, he waved it back and forth..." (Sea
Kayaker, June, '01, p.54). Paddlefloats have killed hundreds of
experienced and fit paddlers.


"It's simple, sponsons work, the paddlefloat doesn't." Nigel Foster,
Coach, British Canoe Union


"Worked well in heavy winds off Welsh Coast." J.J. Ramwell, Sea
Touring


"Sponsons Deliver Safety", Wavelength, Jan/Feb. 1993, p.5


"A Major Development in Kayak Safety", Anorak, Spring 1993, p.7


"Sea Wings are simply the best and easiest-to-use self-rescue device
on the market today." Seakayaker, Winter 1993, p.34


"basic, no nonsense...dramatically increase...safety
and...capabilities... It should be noted that within the North
American civilian sea kayak industry there is some controversy...Sea
Wings' direct competition with...the paddle float...the merits of Sea
Wings...far outweigh those of the paddlefloat." Invitational Military
Kayak Paddle 1994 Evaluation


Without sponsons, logically, there can be no kayak or canoe safety:
The American Canoe Association and others have killed hundreds of
kayakers using sprayskirts, knowing that kayaks are impossible to
pump
out through a sprayskirt, even in small waves. You need hands for the
paddle, pump and sprayskirt, but you still can't seal the sprayskirt,
so water comes back in. This has been openly acknowledged: "...It has
two fairly serious shortcomings: You can't seal the sprayskirt, and
you can't keep both hands on the paddle while pumping." (Sea Kayaker
Magazine, February 2003, p.29) "The most effective way of using a
handheld bilge pump in rough seas is to lift the bottom of your PFD
up
and shove the pump down between the spray skirt and your belly. This
way is slow and awkward, but you can pump with the spray skirt
completely sealed. Practice it." (p.27, Sea Kayaker Magazine, June
2006.) Matt Broze, "Pumping Out after Paddle Float Rescue",
Paddlewise, Wed, 20 Jun 2001 02:36:43 -0700: "...obviously there are
going to be certain combinations of clothing and spraydecks that
don't
allow a pump down the front. Please try it and report back (if you
don't knock yourself out and drown after hitting your chin)." The
idea
to shove the pump down the top of the sprayskirt requires unfastening
the PFD, since the tops of sprayskirts normally extend some distance
underneath the PFD. "


from http://www.sponsonguy.com


Tim Ingram