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Default Obama *DID* lie - the ultimate goal of the leftists is fullbenefits for illegal aliens

On Sep 24, 10:20*pm, "SaPeIsMa" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message
#

# chuckle. the right claims obama's an enemy space alien sent by
# romulans to destroy us by making us all socialist muslims

The ONLY idiot CONSTANTLY making such stupid claims is you
Are you claiming to be "the right" ?
* * So far, you've only shown yourself to be "the wrong"...


says the guy who believes obama is selling us out to havana in spite
of the fact his rich buddies have sold us out to china


#
# this isn't a 'recession', it's a depression. i know to the right, if
# the middle class starves, but the rich do fine, then all is OK


You had better get yourself a good dictionary
You're vocabulary is sadly in need of repair.


says the guy who's struggling to get past 'a' in the dictionary.


#
# the richest 1%, however, saw their incomes almost triple
#

And ?
Apparently, you're not only stupid, you're jealous..


ah. so while the rich steal from the middle class you just shrug your
shoulders...

figures. typical right winger



# the fact is social welfare spending in the US is less than in
# virtually any other western country. yet to the far right, ANY help
# given to the middle class takes away money that belongs to the rich....


LOL
you really are an ignorant scut


1) money is fungible


#
# except, of course, most welfare payments are IN KIND payments which
# are NOT fungible
#

So you're claiming that welfare recipients are paid in cigarettes, beer and
hot dogs ?
* * Don't be stupid


ever hear of food stamps? rent assistance? etc etc....

what a moron...


2) The rich, unlike the middle class, are not stuck living in a place
where they get over-taxed


#
# they're hardly taxed at all. as leona helmsley said, 'only the little
# people pay taxes'.

And yet, the rich pay a DISPROPORTIONATE percentage of taxes in this country
Why don't you EDUCATE yourself instead of swallowing the propaganda you are
being spoon-fed by your handlers.
* *http://www.realclearmarkets.com/arti...ch_and_their_t...


ROFLMAO!! to you, ANY taxes paid by the rich are 'disproportionate'
since only the little people should pay taxes

#
# ROFLMAO!!! fine. when i make $1M i'll let you know.
#

NO chance of that ever happening
You're too stupid, ignorant and gullible to ever make more than minimum
wage.


IOW i'm middle class and work for a living

and that makes you sick since honest work is just for the little folks

#
# now let's look at your argument
#

Yeah, do that
And give us a good laugh with the next series of stupid presumptions

#
# 1. social welfare spending is destroying the US
* * True


then why hasn't it destroyed sweden, germany, france, etc?

oh. that just blew your right wing circuits

in addition, welfare payments haven't increased in years...but the
economy was destroyed last year

a logical person would never suggest welfare was responsible...but to
the reagan brain dead morons, it's the ****** welfare queens...


# 2. there is no social welfare spending in the US
* * FALSE

# 3. therefore it's obama's fault

Stupid conclusion based on false premise
YOu screwed the pooch again, dummy


tell us again how the ******s are destroying america

go ahead. take the time to go through rush's arguments...


The more "social welfare spending", the less well the economy is
doing in the long run


#
# really. then why are countries like sweden, norway, denmark, germany,
# france...all doing economically as well as we are even thought their
# social welfare spending is higher than ours?

Have you been to those countries recently ?
I was in Europe just last week
Visiited family in England, Sweden, Holland, Germany, Austria and Hungary


actually yes, i've been to 14 foreign countries including the UK,
sweden, germany and austria. their welfare spending is higher than
ours. and they're hardly wrecked countries, no matter what the right
wing believes in their delusions..



Guess what, dummy
They're not doing that well, contrary to what you may want to believe.


and america, in the fevered imagination of the right, is doing great

uh huh. if this is success, then what does failure look like? you
right wingers just put your blinders on, take your drugs and tell
yourselves everything's OK 'cuz the rich are doing well

1) Last time I checked, the economy did NOT "collapse"


#
# a 50% drop in the stock market
#

Yup that happens when a 60+ year bubble finally bursts


i LOVE it!! a 60 year bubble!! of course, most of the last 30 years
we've had GOP presidents...with free market fundamentalists in
control...so perhaps you're right...the right wing DID run up a bubble
that the middle class is paying for


#
# ROFLMAO!!! hey moron...i used to work for lucent tech. when they made
# semiconductors....THAT was a bubble...this is an economic collapse.

Which just goes to show how ignorant you are
This was a bubble that was 60+ years in the making and was exacerbated by
laws and regulations that were put in place mostly by the Democrats over
that period of time


ROFLMAO!! ever hear of reagan? pres for 8 years? bush? 4 years. bush
II, 8 years. looks like the GOP was in control for most of the time

and middle class incomes go UP under democrats and DOWN under
republicans...mostly 'cuz the GOP hates the middle class...as you are
showing



By the way, what did you do for Lucent ?
* * Change lightbulbs ?
Clearly, you're too stupid for anything else


says the guy who sweeps out elephant stalls for a living

#
# ah. so proof of the bubble is that there was no bubble for half a
# century

Once again, even with a clear statement, you get it wrong
* * No wonder you got kicked out of Lucent
The bubble took 60+ years to grow
That means very small bubble grows to very,very big bubble, until it pops...


and how does he know it was a bubble that lasted 60 years?

uh...well he just made it up...

just like other right wing stories



Free Market Fundamentalists do NOT push ANY form of "socialism"
* * They leave that to idiots like you


sure they do. who do you think pushed the 'too big to fail' model? the
'monetarism' policy? that's socialism for the rich



# *it's all the ******s having more babies and driving up welfare
# costs...

there you go with the racist remarks again
You really can't seem to help yourself you little racist ****..


says the racist who thinks ****** welfare queens, and not wall street,
are responsible for the current economy even though welfare costs have
DECREASED over the last years while the income of the rich has tripled

so he has no evidence...he makes up racist statements about
blacks...ignores the greed of the rich which even alan greenspan
admitted shocked HIM....

and he says all is right with the world 'cuz the rich are OK


Keynes was pretty well discredited a long time ago


#
# really? who sez? cuz posner's not the only one giving him a re-look.
# in fact, 'rational expectations' free market theory is collapsing
# under attack from 'behavorial economists' who look at the way people
# actually MAKE decisions

The problem is that although Keynes, was a great believer in the complexity
of human interaction not being easily modeled


and the right made up a simple model which DOESNT WORK.


a, Economists did glom on to a
model built according to the main argument in the book, "The General Theory
of Employment, Interest, and Money", by 2 other economists called Hansen and
Hicks, and that allowed American economists to then spend a lot of time
crunching numbers to fit their theories to the model Something from which
Keynes distanced himself early on, BECAUSE it ignored his thsis that
complexity was not easily modeled. This was brought to a Culmination when
Kennedy, brought a boat load of so-called Keynesian economists into the
White House. It was the 1970 inflationary fiasco, which put the nail into
the Keynesian model.


gee. and the latest collapse of the US economy?

oh. you just ignore it because your milton friedman free market
mythology can't handle it.

you spent all your time here denying a financial collapse even exists.
yet you say one happened in the 70's....

let me know when the drugs wear off...