"wf3h" wrote in message
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On Sep 24, 10:26 am, "SaPeIsMa" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message
Apparently true in your universe of ignorance, prejudice and bigotry
Not true in my world of reasoned thought.
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# since when is wearing a bedsheet proof of logic?
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Since never
I suspect that in your case we can safely claim that its proof of
stupidity
After all, you're the idiot who is fascinated about wearing bedsheets
Clearly you imagine that making such declarations is proof of something
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# chuckle. the right claims obama's an enemy space alien sent by
# romulans to destroy us by making us all socialist muslims
The ONLY idiot CONSTANTLY making such stupid claims is you
Are you claiming to be "the right" ?
So far, you've only shown yourself to be "the wrong"...
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# so you think the economy's doing fine because the rich are still rich,
# middle class be damned...
Your strawman
YOU feed it
I have better things to do.
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# can't handle the truth?
#
There's no truth in your stupid ramblings
Just a lot of delusion
#
# this isn't a 'recession', it's a depression. i know to the right, if
# the middle class starves, but the rich do fine, then all is OK
You had better get yourself a good dictionary
You're vocabulary is sadly in need of repair.
Oh and by the way, I haven't seen any reports of "the middle class
starving"
Feel free to support (another one of ) your stupid claims
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# hmmmm...real unemployment is about 16% and rising. middle class
# incomes haven't increased, after inflation, for 30 years
#
That's not evidence of ANYONE "starving"
But it is evidence that you're delusional
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# the richest 1%, however, saw their incomes almost triple
#
And ?
Apparently, you're not only stupid, you're jealous..
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# no wonder you right wingers think everything's fine
#
More delusion on your part
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# i'm sure you think crying 'projection' is a talisman for warding off
# evil, but it's not an argument. sorry
I don't try to argue stupid projections
SPECIFICALLY because they are both stupid and projections
You on the other hand are stupid enough to imagine tha making stupid
projections is intelligent arguement
IT IS NOT !
So why don't you grow up and try to argue like an intelligent adult
When you do, you will have a chance of being somewhat credible
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# can't you just see him with a psych 101 book
# 'projections...transference'
Who's "him" ?
Your alter ego ?
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# the book he's never cracked, however, is calle ECONOMICS...
Yes, that is quite evident from your posts,
You never cracked either of those books.
# the fact is social welfare spending in the US is less than in
# virtually any other western country. yet to the far right, ANY help
# given to the middle class takes away money that belongs to the rich...
LOL
you really are an ignorant scut
1) money is fungible
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# except, of course, most welfare payments are IN KIND payments which
# are NOT fungible
#
So you're claiming that welfare recipients are paid in cigarettes, beer and
hot dogs ?
Don't be stupid
# oh. you don't know what an 'in kind' payment is.
More stupid assumption from you
2) The rich, unlike the middle class, are not stuck living in a place
where they get over-taxed
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# they're hardly taxed at all. as leona helmsley said, 'only the little
# people pay taxes'.
And yet, the rich pay a DISPROPORTIONATE percentage of taxes in this country
Why don't you EDUCATE yourself instead of swallowing the propaganda you are
being spoon-fed by your handlers.
http://www.realclearmarkets.com/arti...eir_taxes.html
They just move themselves and their money out of reach of the taxman
3) So it's the middle-class that gets hit hard by the stupid tax-schemes
proposed by idiots like you to (over) tax the rich adn "redistribute the
wealth"
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# ROFLMAO!!! fine. when i make $1M i'll let you know.
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NO chance of that ever happening
You're too stupid, ignorant and gullible to ever make more than minimum
wage.
4) The reason that "social welfare spending" is low in the US is that
historically the US has ALWAYS been into letting people CHOOSE how they
spend their money instead of having the government tell them how they MUST
spend their money (through taxation).
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# now let's look at your argument
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Yeah, do that
And give us a good laugh with the next series of stupid presumptions
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# 1. social welfare spending is destroying the US
True
# 2. there is no social welfare spending in the US
FALSE
# 3. therefore it's obama's fault
Stupid conclusion based on false premise
YOu screwed the pooch again, dummy
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# uh...OK....
Truman failed to get health care through, and Obambi will also fail
to do so, for the same reasons
5) There is an inverse rule about the success of a country and it's level
of "social welfare spending"
The more "social welfare spending", the less well the economy is
doing in the long run
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# really. then why are countries like sweden, norway, denmark, germany,
# france...all doing economically as well as we are even thought their
# social welfare spending is higher than ours?
Have you been to those countries recently ?
I was in Europe just last week
Visiited family in England, Sweden, Holland, Germany, Austria and Hungary
Guess what, dummy
They're not doing that well, contrary to what you may want to believe.
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# oh. you right wingers don't look at the data. you just have your
# little fairy tales and that's all you need.
The only one spouting the fairy tales here is you
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# and, of course, welfare spending hasnt changed in 20 years, but the
# economy collapsed last year, so welfare couldnt have had an effect
1) Last time I checked, the economy did NOT "collapse"
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# a 50% drop in the stock market
#
Yup that happens when a 60+ year bubble finally bursts
#35% drop in most 401k's
#
See above
# 10% unemployment
#
See above
# record number of foreclosures...
See above
#
# but the rich are doing OK...so to a right winger everything's fine
Your stupid conclusion
Why do you insist on making stupid conclusions ?
Not even close
It was just a bubble bursting
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# ROFLMAO!!! hey moron...i used to work for lucent tech. when they made
# semiconductors....THAT was a bubble...this is an economic collapse.
Which just goes to show how ignorant you are
This was a bubble that was 60+ years in the making and was exacerbated by
laws and regulations that were put in place mostly by the Democrats over
that period of time
By the way, what did you do for Lucent ?
Change lightbulbs ?
Clearly, you're too stupid for anything else
2) Since you're the only one suggesting that welfare could have an effect
on the collapse of a Financial Bubble, you're only arguing with yourself
You do know that the financial bubble that burst last year was 60+
years in the making
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# ah. so proof of the bubble is that there was no bubble for half a
# century
Once again, even with a clear statement, you get it wrong
No wonder you got kicked out of Lucent
The bubble took 60+ years to grow
That means very small bubble grows to very,very big bubble, until it pops..
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# yep. more right wing logic.
#
No just simple fact, that you are to stupid, ignorant and bigotted to
grasp..
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# has nothing to do with the free market fundamentalism you guys
# pushed...and are still pushing....socialism for the rich...
LOL
You have got your terminology all confused
And you also produced and oxymoron, you poor moron
Free Market Fundamentalists do NOT push ANY form of "socialism"
They leave that to idiots like you
# it's all the ******s having more babies and driving up welfare
# costs...
there you go with the racist remarks again
You really can't seem to help yourself you little racist ****..
Too bad that history shows that it's socialism in all it's various forms
that effectively destroys the middle class
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# good thing no one's a socialist, isnt it? and what has free market
# fundamentalism done for the US in the last year but trash our economy.
# even richard posner is now a keynesian.
Then posner is an idiot
#
# well that's a well reasoned argument.
It's not an argument, dummy
It's a conclusion
(that's what the word 'then" implies)
But again, you show your ignorance
Keynes was pretty well discredited a long time ago
#
# really? who sez? cuz posner's not the only one giving him a re-look.
# in fact, 'rational expectations' free market theory is collapsing
# under attack from 'behavorial economists' who look at the way people
# actually MAKE decisions
The problem is that although Keynes, was a great believer in the complexity
of human interaction not being easily modeled, Economists did glom on to a
model built according to the main argument in the book, "The General Theory
of Employment, Interest, and Money", by 2 other economists called Hansen and
Hicks, and that allowed American economists to then spend a lot of time
crunching numbers to fit their theories to the model Something from which
Keynes distanced himself early on, BECAUSE it ignored his thsis that
complexity was not easily modeled. This was brought to a Culmination when
Kennedy, brought a boat load of so-called Keynesian economists into the
White House. It was the 1970 inflationary fiasco, which put the nail into
the Keynesian model.
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# but you right wingers...well...you just go on with your fairy tales
# about horatio alger and gordon gecko as american heroes, m'kay?
There you go, off on one of your stupid tangents again
It was Keynesian school thinking that created the stagflation that we saw
during Carter
It was Reagan who put the knife into it and got the economy going again\
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# and did so by using KEYNESIAN ECONOMICS...massive govt debt to pump
# the economy...
BZZZZT
Wrong again
Reagan used the Neo-Classical model espoused by the Chicago School.
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# jesus you're incredibly stupid.
I woud rather be considered stupid by one whom I repeatedly show to be
ignorant, than the other way around
#
# except, of course, the DATA shows EXACTLY the opposite. middle class
# incomes increase under democrats and decrease under republicans. the
# rich, however, do VERY well under the GOP.
Feel free to cite the data
I doubt that you can
And instead we can expect that you will treat us (once again) to your
fantasies about sucking rush limbaughs testicles
# so, go ahead. keep telling us more fairy tales
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# you know, every time you tell me that, you get your ass handed to
# you.
#
#
http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com...ith_a_profoun/
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# "Overall, middle-class and poor voters do substantially better under
# Democrats.
Naturally, because under the Democrats, they get handed freebies that the
Democrats finance with DEBT
Just like Obambi is doing RIGHT NOW
And under the Republicans, when then have to clean up the Democrat mess,
they end up having to pay for the free ride
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# so, AGAIN you get bitch slapped...
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Only in your stupid wet dreams
The rest of the time, I'm wiping the floor wth you
Why should we
You're doing a bang-up job of it
We're just sitting back to watch a stupid little bantam rooster, strut and
crow
# and while you sit here with your thumb up your ass like little jack
# horner, the world is tumbling down around you...
I leave the weird sexual **** to idiots like you
#
# which the right has always done..and when you destroy the middle class
# by stripping labor protection, sending their jobs overseas, all in the
# name of capital gains....you've wrecked a society
Uh NO !
It's the DEmocrats who raise taxes
#
# of COURSE we raise taxes on the rich...they had a 270% increase in
# income...after making the middle class pay for THEIR mistakes.
Last time I checked it was a DEMOCRAT Congress that did the pork loaded
bailout, for which they can't even account for where the money went..
#
# yet you think the middle class should continue to be raped....typical
# right winger
The only one raping the middle class are the lefties who suck them dry to
pay for the goodies they give to the welfare bums that keep voting them back
into office
Maybe we should eliminate the vote for those who are on the dole.
That way they will not be able to vote in venal Democrats who then rape the
country to pay of the voters that put them in office
Oh wait, you buy into the stupid fantasy that the Democrats only tax the
"rich" and don't screw the middle-class in the process
Well, just goes to show how ignorant you are...
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# you have rush and his fantasies
#
Actually, YOU DO
You're the one constantly taking about him
I have yet to listen to him even once.
But hey, don't let me **** on you and your ignorance
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# i have the data. now let's see....who is telling the truth and who is
# swimming in a septic tank of right wing mythology....
Well, since you have been lying from the get-go, that makes you the one
swimming in ****
Enjoy
I'm done with you, you stupid bigoted and ignorant racist