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I just saw Obama's HS speech
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:57:24 -0400, NotNow wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:42:16 -0400, NotNow wrote:
JohnH wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 08:59:57 -0400, NotNow wrote:
JustWait wrote:
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:55:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:50:39 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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"Jim" wrote in message
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How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're
not
cheap these days.
Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in
Florida? right.
Fraud? Nope. Just a few mis counted votes, hanging chad and the fact
that Al gore kept demanding recounts until he was declared winner.
Total fraud. Yet after Bush was elected by the Supreme Court, loyal
Americans accepted the result. We didn't question that Bush was the
president. After 9/11, Bush had something like 90% approval rating in
the
polls. The vast majority of the world were sympathetic and supportive.
Instead of taking advantage of our remarkable position, Bush squandered
it in a war of choice. Tens of thousands died, and we're much worse
off,
politically, financially, and morally.
Now, answer the question.
Already did, sweetie.
No, you didn't:
How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not
cheap these days.
If we are to end up paying for health care for the poor, and not
including illegal immigrants, then I've no problem with providing the
poor a free passport. That could then be an ID requirement for the
free healthcare.
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John H
Illegal immigrants are exempt from signing up for the various healthcare
programs winding their way through Congress. So, you don't mind a national
id card? That's quite a statement.
Saying, "That's quite a statement" is quite a statement.
I said I agree with everyone being required to have a passport. It
hasn't killed one European that I know of.
The problem with a national ID card is it takes away the Democrats best
election tool, voter fraud... They will never let it happen.
No, the problem(s) with a national ID card is that our basic freedoms
will be lost and gone forever.
Cost. They are estimating the program will cost upwards of $23 billion,
plus they'll have to run the program year to year. Thought you were for
SMALLER government?
I've had a passport for over thirty years. I know of no 'basic
freedoms' I've lost forever.
Do you have any idea WTF you're talking about?
Yes, I'm talking about a National ID card.
Issuing a passport to the poor would cost $23 billion a year? That's
pure horse**** and you know it.
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John H
Again, a NATIONAL ID CARD.....did you READ it?
Think PASSPORT loogy, and then get back to me.
I already have a national ID card. Sure didn't cost any $23 billion.
Tell me what freedoms I've lost? Tell me what freedoms a passport
causes one to lose.
What freedoms would a 'national ID card' cause one to lose that a
passport wouldn't?
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John H
Apparently it's over your head John. The National ID card idea wasn't a
friggin' passport. Two different things.
Please list these 'basic freedoms that will be lost and gone forever'
with *either* a mandatory passport or a 'national ID card'.
You're blowing a lot of smoke.
If you can't list all those 'basic freedoms...', then you lied like
Harry and owe everyone an apology.
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John H
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