"JohnH" wrote in message
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:33:27 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Steve" wrote in message
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On 12-Sep-2009, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

Cheney was the only competent, focused, non butt lucking, intelligent
person
in any administration since the VERY early 90's. Bedwetters can't
deal
with
functional individuals in a faux "country."


Yeah, like someone who ignores the Constitution, exposes undercover CIA
agents, espouses torture. A real "functional" individual Mr. Cheney.

Constitution? He's closer to factual adherence than 1) his boss, 2)
Clinton
or all of any congress in 50 yearrs.

He didn't expose anyone - check the widely available public information.

Torture hasn't happened, but it SURE the hell should. Televised.

Sorry facts make you appear deficient. The reality is, you, like most
"Americans" have your panties in a wad with the democrat vs republican
thing. That's the root of your delusion.


Dick Cheney has only one interest... his interest. He continually put
himself above the law, and he certainly condones both the outing of an
undercover CIA operative and certainly was a party to the torture that
went
on. If you're unwilling to believe that waterboarding is torture, I'm sure
there's someone available to try it on you. It's very clear what your
delusion is, I'm sorry but I can't help you with that.

****, did I miss something else?

Possibly. I can't help with that either.

Did someone ask you for help?

Sometimes you don't have to wait to be asked.

Is a threat to a family member 'torture'? Is waving an unloaded pistol
in your face 'torture'? Suppose someone just looked at you with their
eyes crossed. Would that qualify as 'torture'?

?? You need to re-read the definition of torture and the treaty we pushed
for and signed forbiding it.

a.. anguish: extreme mental distress
a.. unbearable physical pain
a.. agony: intense feelings of suffering; acute mental or physical pain; "an
agony of doubt"; "the torments of the damned"
a.. torment: torment emotionally or mentally
a.. distortion: the act of distorting something so it seems to mean
something it was not intended to mean
a.. subject to torture; "The sinners will be tormented in Hell, according to
the Bible"
a.. the deliberate, systematic, or wanton infliction of physical or mental
suffering by one or more persons in an attempt to force another person to
yield information or to make a confession or for any other reason; "it
required unnatural torturing to extract a confession"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...gainst_Torture
(notice the signatories)

If you liberals are so worried about people, why not do something for
the poor, instead of just making them more poor?

We have and we do. You're clearly not interested in the poor, just keeping
them that way.

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Nom=de=Plume