On Sep 2, 2:44*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 2, 2:35*pm, John H. wrote:





On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 10:18:23 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 2, 1:07*pm, "SteveB" wrote:
September 8, Obama will be piped into all public schools for a speech.
Probably about how to snitch on their parents.

This is scary. *This is sick.

Steve

could be worse. under bush it was legal to throw people in prison
without charge, without a lawyer and without due process. you right
wingers didn't have much to say then, did you?

More 'Bush Rationale'.

nomdeplume *- *this is a fine example.
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Calling an Illegal Alien an "Undocumented Worker" is like calling a
Crack Dealer an "Unlicensed Pharmacist"

John H

I do not think that the Pres has the authority to demand that he be
given such time so schools are free to ignore him. *His message does
not seem to address any educational issues. *Volunteerism is not part
of education we have agreed to provide so his message is irrelevant.

what you think is irrelevant. the president has both a right AND an
obligation to tell us what he's up to. you seem to want him to keep
us in the dark. the fact is anyone is free to disagree with him, to
comment on his words, etc. your paranoia nothwithstanding

Any message from the president is no more relevant than any message
from anybody else and a message from an educational authority might be
acceptable if it was apolitical.

really? how many nuclear footballs do YOU carry? the pres is not just
another citizen. he's the leader of the country.


*There does not seem to be any
purpose of Oboma's message other than politics.
As far as Bush throwing people in prison without charge, we discussed
that in a previous thread, it simply did not happen even to Padilla,

it sure did happen to padilla. and alberto gonzalez and john yoo both
agreed habeas corpus could be suspended. you right wingers LOVE it
when the right suspends the constitution but you have a hernia when a
moderate, normal president addresses the right wing goes ballistic

believe it or not, the president is not an enemy alien.


he was charged with "being an enemy combatant"

he was CHARGED after 4 years of solitary confinement without access to
counsel.

but, god forbid, a president wants to talk with schoolchildren. then
it's time to get the guns.

what an idiot