"The Fish" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 15:24:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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"JLH" wrote in message
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Not sure what you mean by the Bush Rationale,

Since you'e speaking nicely...

The 'Bush Rationale' is the reason many liberals provide for any
negative critique of an Obama action.

I believe that is from a right-wing talking point. There's no shortage of
criticism of Obama from the left.

For example, "You didn't say anything when Bush did it." Or, "Bush did
it, so it's OK if Obama does it too." Hopefully you get the idea.

And, as I've said, I'm willing and able to call Obama on crap that's
either
a hold-over from the Bush years or newly implemented along the same lines.
There are very few people who believe that Obama is perfect, I certainly
am
not among them.

As I've said before, for you guys - yourself, w3fh, Harry, etc. - a
'debate' consists of personal insults and name-calling.

I absolutely reject that line of reasoning or implication. I don't engage
in
such behavior. Feel free to show otherwise. I can't speak for others.

I may stand corrected. If so, I apologize. You're much different from
the pack.

I accept your apology.

And, for the record, Bush may have screwed up a few things during his
eight year tenure. But, Bush is gone. Obama is trying damn hard to
catch up in his first 3/4 of a year.

A few things???? Yeah, a few things like a war of choice and a war of
necessity, like ruining the economy, like taking approximately 1/3 of his
time in office as vacation, like lying to the American public, like spying
on Americans, like engaging in intense cronyism, like promoting and
condoning torture, and on and on and on.

Again, Bush is history.

History, unfortunately, has a direct impact on our current situation.

When Bush was first elected, I was shocked that someone like him was
acceptable to 50% of the electorate. Despite my strong anger at the
situation in Florida and the US Supreme Court vote, I accepted his
legitimacy as president (well, reluctantly). I believed that he would mostly
not do to much, especially since the enconomic climate was decent. I, and
most Americans, supported him in the days and weeks after 9/11, but as the
war in Iraq approached, and I began to suspect that we were being lied to,
my attitude toward him as a fool with ok advisors changed to contempt and
disgust.

Before the last presidential campaign, I had a lot of respect for McCain. I
thought he would run a decent, forthright (and of course partisan) effort to
take the presidency, even though I thought he was probably too old and I
disagreed with a lot of what he stood for both economically and socially. I
am, after all, a liberal. It soon became obvious that he was unable to
restrain the crazies, and when he picked Palin, I concluded that he had
completely missed the boat. If he had picked a reasoned, responsible,
intelligent woman, who happened to be right of center, he might have pulled
it out. There's no doubt that the Palin pick generated momentum and
interest. Talking with my friends, we thought he became pathetic toward the
end. I, for one, felt sorry for him. Frankly, he scared me with his
"maverick" moves... e.g., "suspending" his campaign.

At this point, it's Obama's economy and Obama's two wars, but the historical
detritious can't be swept under the rug, not if we're to move forward. I'm
willing to give the Obama administration some time to sort things out. Not
forever, but he deserves to be respected as the President, even if you
disagree with his policies. We need civil discourse if we are to succeed as
a people.

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Nom=de=Plume