On Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:31:08 -0700, "Calif Bill"
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On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 00:06:17 -0700, jps wrote:

As for JPs allegation that Bush ignored Israel, why does he think we
are in Iraq in the first place?

Oil.

That was funny the first time you said it. It's even funnier now.

Where's the oil?

Don't you know that they (Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz) ****ed
the whole thing up?

They didn't have a plan other than to destabelize the country and
attempt to be the country's resource broker. They had long term
objectives but didn't have a plan. They were stupid.


We took out Saddam so Israel wouldn't have to.
He never threatened the US and he would have been more than happy to
sell us all the oil he could pump at bargain basement prices to build
up his military capability. As long as he was aiming it at Iran we
were happy to let him do it, even selling him technology. As soon as
he started saying he was going after Israel, we went to war with him.
You can't even say we were protecting democracy in kuwait since there
isn't any.
Whether protecting Israel is a good thing or not is worth the debate
but the government will not frame the question that way. It is totally
ignored when we talk about Iraq and, increasingly, Iran.
It is easier to just say this is all about oil.
The fact is we don't even get the majority of our oil from anywhere in
the middle east.

Country May-09 Apr-09 YTD 2009 May-08 YTD 2008

CANADA 1,746 1,854 1,860 1,846 1,923
VENEZUELA 1,228 803 1,025 1,030 994
MEXICO 1,088 1,177 1,174 1,116 1,210
SAUDI ARABIA 996 1,021 1,079 1,579 1,528
NIGERIA 552 673 608 851 1,053

Saddam threatened the US big time. If he had got control of Kuwait in the
first war, he would have set up a really bad for us Oil Cartel, and force
the petrodollar to the Euro. But would have caused massive upheavels in
this country. As well as maybe triggered another world war.

He thought he had our blessing. We were allies before his invasion of
Kuwait.

Do I need to direct you to the long history of our mutual business?