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John Leo

On Fri, 07 Aug 2009 08:38:48 -0400, NotNow wrote:

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On Thu, 06 Aug 2009 12:40:09 -0400, NotNow wrote:

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On Wed, 05 Aug 2009 11:04:57 -0400, NotNow wrote:

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On Tue, 04 Aug 2009 16:06:58 -0400, NotNow wrote:

That no good dirty, nasty liberal ******* went to North Korea, and used
that damned namby-pamby liberal bull**** called diplomacy and got those
journalists released.
It was simply a way of giving Lil Kim the photo op with an important
American kissing his ass that he demanded without actually sending a
government official. I guess Jimmy Carter was busy.
Sarah Palin probably would have worked too ... by golly

Yeah. We should have just let Kim do anything he wanted with our
innocent Americans.
We are not really sure what was in the bag, we just know who the bag
man was. I imagine we gave them a fat foreign aid package.
The lesson reaffirmed was, take hostages or threaten us and the US
will pay up.
That has been true at least since the Kennedy administration when JFK
gave Kruschev everything he wanted to get the missiles out of Cuba, in
spite of a lot of gothic theater and saber rattling.
And what do you think would have happened if there was a (R) in office?
Kim asked specifically for Clinton. Clinton had the fortitude and
compassion to help DESPITE what he knew the naysayers would say about
him. What has come out here in rec.boats is foolish even on a Harry
scale of political one-sidedness.
Funny, I haven't seen any "naysayers" here, all supportive. Just want to
point out that Obama is God, not Clinton (anymore) so it is reasonable
to suspect this meeting was a cold call with nothing predecided... Show
me what anybody said that should be considered negative about Clinton in
this situation??

Again, just like the reverse of Harry, some find it plausible to dis
Clinton but hide it behind a very thin veil of bull****. I'm about sick
of it. From both sides.
I just don't know what you think we are saying that is negative, what
was it? All we are saying it "it isn't a cold call, issues were pre-
arranged". As it should be, these are countries involved, not
individuals. It shouldn't be left to any one person, democrat or
republican... He did exactly as he should of with his role in this
rescue. I give him nothing but credit. I always kinda' liked Bill, even
if I don't agree with his politics...

I for one, commend the man for what he done. You do realize that he put
his ass right in the line of fire, don't you? The North Koreans could
have just took him and did whatever they wanted. But what do all of the
conservatives say? All of the remarks were no where near "it isn't a
cold call". More like *we probably gave him rights to build all of the
nukes he wants* kind of bull****. Funny, a lot of the remarks I heard
here yesterday completely parroted Hannity when I listened to him on the
way home. Face it. Nothing a liberal does will ever please some people,
simply because it's a liberal. Hide it under a thin veil, and it's
Harryopposite.
I wonder if Hannity said, "Wow, that's the same thing those folks on
rec.boats were saying!"

Yes, the North Koreans could have just "took him and did whatever they
wanted". But then they wouldn't benefit from any promises made during
any negotiations, would they?

Diplomacy is not a one-way street.
--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.
What promises?

Loogie.! Do you really think that KJI just let those girls go because
President Clinton came and asked him nicely, and absolutly for no other
reason?

No but the way you and John are going about it here, it sounds like you
two have an inside track and know all about it. You don't know what if
anything happened. Kim DID ask specifically for Clinton. Clinton went
and did an honorable thing, risking his life to do so. That is the
truth. But it seems you two just can't take it for that because of who
he is.
Have you two been approached by the RNC to disrupt town hall meetings
yet? I remember when dems were disrupting Bush, the republicans had a
hissy fit, saying they were insulting, using tactics like yelling so
much that the speaker couldn't make a point or answer there tirades.
Now it seems the conservatives think it's the right thing to do.....

Where did the 'risking his life' come from. Oh, maybe you were talking
of the plane landings. Those are risky, but millions do it every day.

--
John H

All decisions, even those made by liberals, are the result of binary thinking.