On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:37:33 -0700, "Calif Bill"
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:28:59 -0700, "Calif Bill"
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:04:01 -0700, "Calif Bill"
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:39:32 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:56:09 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Calif Bill wrote:
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On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 12:41:30 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 02:00:17 -0700, jps
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Turns out the law says you can't arrest someone for making a
public
disturbance in his own home... That means Gates shouldn't have
been
arrested no matter how ****y or derogatory the statements he
made
to
the police officer. Nor, should the police have entered the
house
at
all without probable cause, which was not established.

If you screw with the cops and won't stop, you get arrested no
matter
who you are. That is simply true, fair or not.

I do not see any racial component here at all beyond Gates'
racist
comments. White guys get arrested for this every day.

The only thing I would have suggested to Crowley is he should
have
continued to walk away from this rant and waited until Gates got
to
the street to arrest him. I am sure it would have happened
anyway,
Perhaps so, but he didn't. He should never have engaged Gates in
the
way he did. Lost his cool and didn't recover.

People screw with the cops all the time. The cops rarely react in
the
way Crowley did. They're taught to calm things, not incite them.

Napolitano is wrong about not being able to arrest someone for
making
a
public disturbance on their own property. Arrests are made for
that
every
weekend. You having a wild party at your house, you can be
arrested.
And
the arrest will stick. You have sex on your front lawn. You think
you
can
not be arrested?



"in their own home".


He wasn't arrested in his home, He was outside on the porch, where he
followed Crowley, still screaming at him. Significant legal
difference. I agree Crowley should have kept moving and arrested him
when he got to the street tho.
BTW this guy "who needs a cane" managed to chase Crowley outside
without it so he isn't all that crippled.

I'm sure Gates represented a significant threat to the officer and the
neighborhood.

Crowley never should have engaged or responded to Gates hissyfit.

He is probably a gun nut.

And you're probably taking bong hits.

Just because you are a drug user, do not accuse me of it. Last time I
smoked Pot, as was still a student at San Francisco State U. And did not
seem to have much effect on me. Had given up smoking years before, so
that
was also against the use of pot. Rest of the drugs were much to scary to
try. I worked on a direct path from the Haight-Asbury to Union Square in
downtown SF. The speed freaks would want to come in and watch the
flashing
computer lights. The days when computer rooms were advertising fishbowls
with exterior windows. Which drug are you abusing these days?

I never abused any drugs. What prescription medications are you on?

Oh, you don't abuse them, you love them?

As much as you love fellatio from the transvestites downtown.