Tim wrote:
On Jul 16, 6:01 am, Captain Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Wed, 15 Jul 2009 22:08:51 -0700, "Calif Bill"



wrote:

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Jul 15, 5:51 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message
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And make boating better in general at the Groveland Mine Recreation
Area in Dickinson County .
Sounds to me like a good idea.
http://www.connectmidmichigan.com/ne...aspx?id=324844
Good news for locals there.
That's one weak point here...the launch ramps are a bit crappy...some only
usable at half or high tide.
This is one of the big reasons I went with a smaller open aluminum
boat....something that can be launched & retrieved singlehanded easily.
i can understand that, Don. If I had to go down some dirt/gravel or
busted up ramp to boat, I just wouldn't boat. That's what I like
about where I go. The AC of E. keep all the ramps and docks in good
shape.
Heh - all depends on where you live. You can't depend on the AC of E
to do anything much around here other than sit around and drink coffee
while looking at a ramp and deciding that, well maybe we can get to it
eventually in the next - um...we'll get back to you on that.

Used to be you'd call the AC of E about a problem and they'd have
somebody out in a few days to look at it and (1) recommend a course of
action or (2) at least tell you where you could go to get the
clearances and information on the fix - hell, if they had time, they'd
do it themselves.

Now - HA!!! The dam and pond at the head of the stream that feeds my
pond needs repointing and the silt buildup behind the dam needs to be
pulled clear along with getting a drag line into the pond and clearing
out the silt from the flood we had five years ago - it's gotten really
bad.

Pffff - no help at all - none. If they can be bothered to even answer
your calls, that's a plus. A few of us who have fished that stream
for thrity years (a couple of guys more than that), the local fish and
game clubs - we've tried and tried to get the AC of E to give us an
engineering plan so we can pay for it ourselves - we're not even
asking them to do it - nope, can't get a thing out of them.

The ramp at the Thompson Dam is AC of E's responsibility - it's been
closed for three years to the general public because of it's
deteriorating condition.


Tom, I don't' think you're congressmen are getting enough under-the-
table money!

AC of E keeps Southern Illinois access in great shape!

Wasn't the Corps budget cut drastically a couple of years ago?