jps wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:33:27 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
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You think Obama can screw it up as badly as Bush did?

Not a bloody chance.

Reminds me of something.

Did you happen to read the summary of the FBI report that was just made
public.
This is very recent. Obama's FBI. Didn't make major headlines, of
course.

It reports the results of a major post mortem of the Iraq issue, from
beginning to end.
It focuses on Saddam's activities, his state of understanding, his
realization that Baghdad was lost and his hiding until captured.

It also recounts the pre-war mindset of Saddam and the various intelligence
agencies (ours and other nations) information and beliefs at the time.
Simplified, the story was this:

Saddam promoted the perception that he indeed was in possession of weapons
of mass destruction.
He was not concerned about the UN or the USA. He didn't believe Bush would
pull the trigger and invade.

His concern was Iran. He wanted to keep them at bay by perpetuating the
rumors and stories of his WMD stockpiles.

So, Saddam said he had WMDs.
The CIA believed he had WMDs.
The FBI believed he had WMDs.
Intelligence agencies of other countries believed he had WMDs.
Clinton believed he had WMDs.
Kerry believed he had WMDs.
In fact, most of Congress believed he had WMDs and are on record as saying
so.
Why not? Saddam said he had WMDs.

But when Bush said Saddam had WMDs, he lied.

Eisboch

Congratulations Richard. Most on the left had this figured out six
years ago.

Everyone believed Saddam had weapons but there were a ton of folks who
were arguing to let the inspectors do their job and had a pretty good
idea Saddam was bluffing.

This **** really started to stink when Bush went into full-rush mode.

You probably didn't notice with all that flag waving and rah rah you
were doing.

To what end? We're ****ed for 3 trillion, everyone hates us and we've
done nothing to rebuild education, infrastructure or ensure job
retention in our country.

Osama bin Laden just had to tip the first domino and our leadership
took over from there.

Good thing it only took you six years to discover the truth.

Congratulations again.


It is important to note that whatever Clinton believed, he was smart
enough to not invade Iraq.

Bush had a hard-on for Saddam before he even presumed his office. He was
looking for excuses, no matter how tenuous, to invade Iraq and get
Saddam. So he, Cheney and Rumsfeld initiated a war of convenience, and
this country and Iraq paid and are paying the price for his hotheadedness.