On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 21:17:03 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

Zombie of Woodstock wrote:
On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 16:22:32 -0700, jps wrote:

On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:11:19 -0400, Zombie of Woodstock
wrote:

On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 18:27:16 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

jps wrote:
On Mon, 01 Jun 2009 14:44:00 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:

jps wrote:
He's a victim of middle class morals. The dog is trained in the same.
I have no problems with profanity, it just sounds childish when you use
it in every sentence. Trust me, you calling everyone a **** does
nothing to help your case...
I've called one person a **** and deservedly so.

Now, let's get back to the point. Is your dog trained in middle class
morals as I've speculated?
First of all, it is dogs, and neither one of them are middle class. My
dogs are not plebeian, strictly upper crust morals for those mongrels.
Speaking of dogs, this afternoon one of the local guys who breeds
Doberman's invited me to look over his new brood of pups - he's got a
couple that are "odd man out" - color is a little off and one is a
runt.

Now that I'm without a doggie around the house, I'm seriously thinking
of the runt - maybe the other odd ball to keep her company.

I have to practice my speech to Mrs. Wave when she gets home. :)

I love Dobermans.
They're great for scaring the **** out of little kids and visitors.

Nah - properly trained, they are just like any other dog.

They don't go off like pit bulls but they do go off.

Piffle - again, properly trained, no dog "goes off".

I released a pit bull a month or so ago that I was fostering that came
out of a dog fighting operation in Rhode Island. Eight months old when
I got him. He trained up really nice once I got it through his head
that cats are not food, nor are rabbits and birds. :)

He had a great nose - trained up very nice and is now working for the
Border Patrol as a drug dog. I spoke to his handler two weeks ago and
he said that Roger is one of the best dogs he's worked with.

Another success. :)

Damn I'm good.

I have a tendency to agree with you that there is not such thing as a
bad dog, just bad owners, but I have found out that Chow's, even Chow
Mixes have to be watched closely when in a new environment or around new
dogs or people. They are very leery and unpredictable around any thing
new. Once I learned that, I now know how to handle her when she meets
new dogs or people.

All of the Pit Bulls I have known have a had the temperament of Petey.
Prior to WWII, they were the number one breed in the US, and there were
not known as an aggressive breed.

As far as Doberman being more aggressive than other dogs, the CDC agrees
with your position. According to the CDC, the most important factors
contributing to dog bites are related to the level of responsibility
exercised by dog owners.

Damn straight.

The only dog I've ever had a problem with training wise was a Perro de
Presa Canario aka Presa Canario - that was an epic battle of wills
I'll tell you what. Talk about a dog that wants to be dominant -
wowzers. It didn't take me long to straighten that out as far as I
was concerned, but to others, jeepers you had to watch him every
single second and keep him under control at all times. The only dog I
ever worked with that I couldn't let off the leash.

The folks who eventually took him were very familiar with the breed
and own a cattle stock yard - perfect situation for the dog and he
worked well with them so it was a wash, but man, I'll never get
involved in a rescue of a Preso again. Never.