On Wed, 13 May 2009 09:43:17 -0400, "Reginald P. Smithers III, Esq."
wrote:



I think you understood the point I was trying to make. Many people are
debating if we should use waterboarding , is it considered torture and
if it is torture should we do it anyway.

I did. We're on the same wavelength. Whatever that means
technically, let's not go there. We agree.

My point is that the question is really moot. Most people agree that
torture does not provide valuable information. No matter what anyone
says, if you are being waterboarded, it is torture. If you are not
going to get any accurate information why waste your time, why provide
your enemies and friends with justification to question the U.S. moral
fiber, why provide the Islamic extremist a valuable recruiting tool to
expand their members who are determined to attack the west and the US.
I can not figure out why our leaders in the military, the CIA and the
administration allowed this to go on. I am just very disappointed by
all of it, and everyone involved, including Bush and Chaney.

As am I. And I'll throw in all the spineless Dem worms with that
crowd.
I'm conflicted on how/if to proceed with prosecutions.
On the one hand I want an example set, so torture is never considered
again, because once it's countenanced not a one of us is immune from
it.
On the other hand who needs more domestic turmoil for the likes of
those worthless ragheads that were tortured.
Though I reject torture, nobody deserved it more.
From what we've been told anyway. Which is an entire other problem -
lawlessness being cloaked by "state secrecy."
Forces larger than us will determine what comes of it.
Anything but a whitewash will satisfy me, so long as torture is
rejected, finally and irrevocably.
Part of this problem is the acceptance of the notion of the
"Imperial Presidency."
That should be laid to rest too.
Having a constitutional lawyer as President might help there.
But who knows? Seems like getting the WH gig comes with an
air hose to stick in your ear and inflate your head.

--Vic