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On May 12, 8:33*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"D.Duck" wrote in message

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Several times above you say your "feelings". *That's pure speculation
based on no first hand knowledge. *It's the way you "wish" the facts to
be.


A wise old man said, "when you don't know, you don't know".


I regard this as being a dishonest way of "spinning" opinions into truths..
Repeat it often enough and long enough and it becomes "fact" in the minds of
some.

An example. *But first, this is not a statement for or against the issue of
water boarding. *It is simply an example of how spin can distort truth.

A few months ago there was a great debate as to if the practice of water
boarding is torture.
Many viewpoints were given in the media and here in rec.boats.
Bush's JD team obviously advised that it was not.
Obama has declared that it is.

But, to the best of my current knowledge, the issue has not been addressed
in a court of law.
So, the question remains subject to various opinions.

However, the subject has been sufficiently spun to cause some to demand the
prosecution of Bush administration officials, including Bush and Cheney
themselves, because water boarding "is" torture. * General public consensus
has been influenced by the spin. * *But, it still has not been legally
challenged or determined.

If indeed water boarding was a crime *when* is was used during the Bush
administration, prosecution is justified.
If a new legal determination or legislation is passed to formally make water
boarding a crime, Bush's administration cannot be retroactively charged.

My bet is that charges against Bush or his administration will never happen,
because there's no legal basis for a crime being committed. * Lots of
opinions and spin, but no legal basis.

And Obama won't want to open that can of worms unless he absolutely has to.
There have already been activities occurring on *his* watch that conceivably
could expose him and his administration to potential legal action if the law
is ignored.

Eisboch


Well said, Richard!