Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 11 May 2009 10:49:48 -0400, HK wrote:


Most of the arm-twisting comes from the employers. As in, "if you vote
union, we're shut down this plant." "If you vote union or help the union
in any way, we'll fire you." And so forth and so on.

The first is a perfectly valid company threat.
A company I worked for did just that when the union was voted in.
Moved to Arkansas.
Screwed the old-timers out of their pensions too.
Got nothing to do with the secret ballot.
Your second example just doesn't hold water. Getting fired on how you
vote is impossible with a secret ballot.
Management doesn't know how you voted. Duh.
I told you before this card check won't work.
Won't get through Congress.
If there's anything wrong with the union vote process or management
abuse, it can be handled by a strong NLRB.
Taking away the secret ballot is plain un-American.
Totally lame.

--Vic


I don't know what the chances are in Congress, but they'll probably
improve when Franken is seated.

We don't have a strong NLRB or strong labor laws that are enforced. Bush
pretty much destroyed the NLRB, and OSHA, and the EPA.

I get quite the chuckle over Republican/right wing whining about unions.
It wasn't the unions that brought this country to its knees economically
the last couple of years. It was the unbridled greed of wall street, the
banking industry, and corporations.