Eisboch wrote:

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Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:

Interesting prospective on the UAW...

http://seekingalpha.com/article/1366...e?source=yahoo



It is always fun to read the right-wingers' rationalizations as to
why the working man and woman should be paid ****, with no benefits.
Serfdom uber alles, eh?



Why is that?

Seems like when you cannot directly contradict or debate facts you
default to a generalized, "right-winger" attack.

Eisboch


There's no reason to "directly contradict" or "debate" right-wingers
because it would be the same as lying down with pigs in a pool of
pig**** and expecting to come out clean.

I read the article, and the conclusion is the same as all the other
right-wing articles that state that auto workers in this country
should work for peanuts. I especially liked the analogies between what
the auto worker earns and what physicians can earn - that was funny
stuff.

I'm sure I've told you about my Norwegian buddies who work the
offshore oil rigs and the supply boats. They make substantially less
than their U.S. counterparts, but they live very well, and seem a lot
happier than American works.

Why?

1. First class national health care plan.
2. First class retirement plan that provides a really decent retirement.
3. No or extremely low cost college tuition.
4. A serious rehab program if they are injured on the job. One of my
buddies lost use of an arm in a horrific accident. The government
picked up all his medical bills, and sent him back to college to learn
a new profession he would be able to handle. It also supported his
family while he was learning a new profession. There are no disposable
workers in his country.

I've been to his house. He lives between Oslo and Lillehammer. Nice
suburban house, very well insulated. Not huge, but comfy, well-built,
and up to date.

Come to think of it, he's probably retired by now.

I'll take the right-wing rants about U.S. factory worker pay seriously
once we have plans in place to make sure those who do that kind of work
are treated like workers in other modern countries.

Oh...and when the ratio in pay between top execs and line workers
comes down from four or five hundred to one (or higher) to maybe 10 to 1.



Knock. Knock. The USA is not Norway. The USA is not a euro-styled
socialistic society.
If that's what you advocate, be honest and say so. Otherwise your
comparisons are meaningless.

Eisboch


Well, I suppose I am "socialistic" enough to value labor at least as
much as capital. Drastically cutting the pay of factory workers and
eliminating their health care and retirement benefits is not acceptable.
Might as well do away with safety regulations while we are at it, right?
I mean anything that helps the rich get richer at the expense of the
working middle class...why that's the new American way.