On Mar 21, 6:03*pm, John H wrote:
On Sat, 21 Mar 2009 14:59:04 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:





On Mar 21, 5:10*pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:

au contraire. the lack of unions has destroyed the US middle class.

Can you provide a definition for the middle class? The Census Bureau
doesn't define the middle class so there is no way to argue for or
against the destruction of the middle class.

the census bureau is not in charge of economics.

the middle class generally is those making between 30,000 to 100,000.

it's a reason why income inequality in the US is among the greatest in
the world and wall street runs amuck with little oversight.

What is income inequality? My definition of income inequality is those
that get off there asses and work and those who are lazy *******s who
don't want to work.

IOW you don't follow economics. you don't know the richest 1% have had
their incomes increase by over 200% in the last 10 years or so while
the middle class stagnated.

no wonder you love to **** the middle class. you dont even believe we
should be able to earn a living wage.

There is a road construction
project going on at the end of my street. We have union labor at the
construction project. As I am driving 2 miles down this road seeing 30
guys watching 5 or 6 guys actually working I am thinking about who at my
company is going to get laid off today. Unions get no sympathy from me.

and wall street destroyed the US economy. unions had no hand in
that.

Paying a union guy 95% of his salary to sit around and do nothing is
destroying the US economy. The unions negotiating to prevent
productivity improvements in US factories didn't help the economy either.

and paying 5 guys at AIG a billion dollars to drive the stock market
to 50% of its value has a siightly bigger effect on my income than the
guys working on your road do

again...you just can't think logically.

it's the big wall street manager, the unregulated capitalist that's
outlived his usefulness.

If there is no big capitalist there there is no need for the union guy..
Unions can't exist without corporations. But, corporations can exist
without unions.

yeah and kings can exist without a middle class, too. *seems you think
feudalism was a great idea.

bush had 8 years to do something besides make the rich richer. he
didn't.
Why do you Democrats keep harping about the past and previous
administrations? Let's concentrate on what the current administration is
doing to destroy the country and how we can stop it.- Hide quoted text -

jesus h. christ on crutches....obama has been president for 60 days.
are you rednecks so illiterate you think eight years of fascism
mismanagement on the part of bush/cheney/exxon can be undone in 60
days? are you truly that irrational?

When you take command of the ship you are responsible for the entire ship.

and if you didn't build the ship you have to pilot it as best you can.
obama inherited a sinking ship.

No. Obama's 'inheritance' was pretty well established in October of
last year. Now go back and see what the market has done since then.
Also, look at what it's done any day following an Obama speech.

Take the blinders off. You're almost as bad as HK.

Obama lied, the economy died.
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you know, your economic illiteracy makes me weep for our country

i'm a physical scientist. i collect and analyze data for a living.

no scientist...none....would look at data as you propose. none. not a
single one

you do not select data to fit your preconceptions. you completely
ignore the headlong slide caused by bush's economic policies over 8
years and instead focus on a 2% history.

it's astonishing...remarkable...how deliberately stupid you can
be....you're the stupidity equivalent of a nor'easter.

no wonder the GOP got destroyed. you voted for it.